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How long would this season have been if you cut out all the plots that went nowhere?

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(@kosmickrab)
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Let's cut out all those nonsensical Roadhouse scenes, Becky & Steven, Red, Audrey, Jerry in the woods, Ben and his assistant, 1-1-9 woman...

I'm starting to wonder if David and Mark really intended it to be 9 episodes but then somehow convinced Showtime to expand to 18. Then they just filled it will stuff.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 6:41 pm
(@mj_gilbert)
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I don't think any plot line went nowhere. Or all of them. I don't think (or hope i don't think) that "going somewhere" was what I was looking for.

So I am glad for every second. Wish he had swept long enough to get that one spot...

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 7:04 pm
(@sonia_kay)
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Technically I'd say that's accurate: They could've gotten where they wanted to go in half the time, if not less.

But c'mon... it's Twin Peaks. It has to be quirky and atmospheric and sometimes willfully pointless or downright nuts. I found some of the digressions tedious but I thought stoned Jerry in the woods was freaking hysterical. (Hm, maybe I was stoned.)

I'd also give credit to some of those scenes for setting a mood, even if they didn't exactly "go anywhere." Some trailer-dweller selling his blood... Becky repeating her mother's mistakes... "Dr. Amp" making a buck off anger and alienation... It all sort of swirls around you like some ominous brew of degeneracy and hopelessness, the kind of place where evil things can fester.

It doesn't all work, and a few bits were infuriating on purpose (the Roadhouse sweeper, Gordon's French lady... arguably Wally Brando), but even those are sort of like Greatest Hits Of Lynchian Pointlessness. On the whole, I think the "abridged version" would've been a lot less satisfying.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 7:32 pm
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Posted by: MJ Gilbert

I don't think any plot line went nowhere. Or all of them. I don't think (or hope i don't think) that "going somewhere" was what I was looking for.

So I am glad for every second. Wish he had swept long enough to get that one spot...

That ONE spot still drives me nuts even after everything!

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 7:35 pm
(@rocksem)
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There was a crap ton of indulgent filler in this. I'd have to agree. It will be a year at least before I will willingly watch someone drive around in the dark again.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 7:39 pm
(@teo-peaks)
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I'm sure they wanted to add an Evelyn Marsh plot but since it would have required another 9 episodes they decided against it. Too bad.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 7:41 pm
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Posted by: MJ Gilbert

I don't think any plot line went nowhere. Or all of them. I don't think (or hope i don't think) that "going somewhere" was what I was looking for.

So I am glad for every second. Wish he had swept long enough to get that one spot...

Agree 100%

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 7:45 pm
(@rhaigh)
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No filler for me. I loved every minute.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 9:03 pm
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(@rocksem)
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I will watch Season 3 again, probably many times in the future. But I will fast forward through just about every Dougie Jones scene. I have had enough of Dougie for one lifetime. Dougie Jones makes Fire Walk With Me look like Gone with the Wind. 

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 9:08 pm
(@ovalportraits)
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This is a total pipe dream, but the Blu-ray release would really be something if it included a bunch of filmed-but-cut scenes that provide resolution to several of the side stories of season 3.

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 10:46 pm
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Posted by: Travis G. Harrington

Let's cut out all those nonsensical Roadhouse scenes, Becky & Steven, Red, Audrey, Jerry in the woods, Ben and his assistant, 1-1-9 woman...

I'm starting to wonder if David and Mark really intended it to be 9 episodes but then somehow convinced Showtime to expand to 18. Then they just filled it will stuff.

I didn't find much, if any, filler in TPTR. I think "filler" has become a catch-all for, "I didn't like; is boring or absurd/confusing/challenging." 

As for plot lines: there are many unresolved and others that are discrete but they all went somewhere or served some literary/atmospheric function (we just don't happen to be privy to more of that "where"). 

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 11:02 pm
(@matthew_gladney)
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I loved how so many scenes (even if they didn't end up "going anywhere") set a particular mood for the show.

And, regarding the Ben Horne scenes with his secretary.... those were important for later on, as they revolved around the humming noise.

 

 
Posted : 08/09/2017 11:06 pm
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Posted by: Matthew Gladney

I loved how so many scenes (even if they didn't end up "going anywhere") set a particular mood for the show.

And, regarding the Ben Horne scenes with his secretary.... those were important for later on, as they revolved around the humming noise.

 

Did we meet Beverlys husband because of the humming noise?

 
Posted : 09/09/2017 12:01 am
(@zodas)
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Most of those "filler" scenes I'm ok with as they worked to varying degrees of success or had valid purposes...but...

...Becky and Stephen needed left on the cutting room floor. 

 
Posted : 09/09/2017 12:06 am
(@caoimhin)
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Posted by: Zack Sisson
Posted by: Matthew Gladney

I loved how so many scenes (even if they didn't end up "going anywhere") set a particular mood for the show.

And, regarding the Ben Horne scenes with his secretary.... those were important for later on, as they revolved around the humming noise.

 

Did we meet Beverlys husband because of the humming noise?

To me, that scene gave her character more depth than she would've had otherwise and further complicated the sexual tension between herself and Ben. 

 

 
Posted : 09/09/2017 12:21 am
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