Just read this at the top of my Google feed...and I’m having a hard time arguing with its logic.
I've read a lot of interesting things today, but that's the best interpretation I've run across.
Going to rewatch and and keep this in mind (and other interpretations) now that I have had time to process my own feelings about it.
That was good.
I've read a lot of interesting things today, but that's the best interpretation I've run across.
Going to rewatch and and keep this in mind (and other interpretations) now that I have had time to process my own feelings about it.
Second this as well.
How does "the dreamer" then become part of the story in this theory?
How does "the dreamer" then become part of the story in this theory?
By the many dreamlike qualities of the place where Dale found Laura. Shifting identities, shifting realities...the dream logic of finding Laura through a diner named Judy's. Maybe even the dreamlike haze of not knowing what year it is. I'm surprised so many people saw all those clues and think that place is something natural.
Could be the Mother's dream. Could be a dream (nightmare?) of Laura's that the Mother helped along.
I thought episode 18 was quite easy to "follow". Maybe my background training of watching timetravel/alternate universe Movies and TV-series has prepped me.
The Linked article elsborates quite nicely the rather obvious plotline.
I find this one of the more satisfying "explanations" so far.
The thing that still disturbs me however, is that throughout episode 18, Cooper didn't act like Cooper. Indeed, he seemed to have the mannerisms of bad Cooper, if anything. This is before and after he crossed the 430 line.
To me, this needs to be explained in the context of any theory.
Just read this at the top of my Google feed...and I’m having a hard time arguing with its logic.
Thank you for posting this. It's not the ending I wanted but it's the ending we got (sigh)...
I thought episode 18 was quite easy to "follow". Maybe my background training of watching timetravel/alternate universe Movies and TV-series has prepped me.
The Linked article elsborates quite nicely the rather obvious plotline.
THANK YOU!
All I think one has to do is follow the evidence that we're shown. I've been seeing so many 'theories' about part 18 that just seem to ignore what's onscreen in favor of offering a more cosmic, more satisfying, or 'twistier' ending.
I'm definitely not saying that there aren't mysteries there that are open to interpretation, of course. And I disagree with a couple of points in that article. But the overall narrative is fairly straight-line, IMO.
I find this one of the more satisfying "explanations" so far.
The thing that still disturbs me however, is that throughout episode 18, Cooper didn't act like Cooper. Indeed, he seemed to have the mannerisms of bad Cooper, if anything. This is before and after he crossed the 430 line.
To me, this needs to be explained in the context of any theory.
I'd chalk the pre-430 stuff up to grim determination. He's not peppy and bubbly, but he seems to be genuinely caring for Diane before their entry into the other dimension.
Post-430, I'd say that he probably is feeling the Richard identity creep in around the edges. But I also think that Dale's on edge because he knows that the Mother/Judy/Experiment is behind that dimension, which is liable to be fundamentally hostile to him. That's why he wasn't messing around in the diner, and kept scanning the room with his gun drawn. He was in JUDY'S place.
Seems like that theory starts off by jumping to a conclusion that Judy did intervene somehow after Cooper prevented murder of Laura that evening in the past. I've only watched finale once, but I didn't see any sign of Judy intervening. To me, it was more like the classic time-traveller problem. Cooper can never stop killing of Laura, because the only reason he ever got to know Laura was when he was sent to investigate the case. If Laura is never murdered, Cooper will never get to know her. However, if this is the case, I don't know why they all have different identities in an alternate reality.
I don't think it's too big of a jump when you hear Judy's sound before Laura disappears, and then she's found in the other place through her employment at a place named "Judy's".
The issue with the 'alternate timeline' approach IMO is that it explains very little of the weirdness and quirks that happen in the other place.
Seems like that theory starts off by jumping to a conclusion that Judy did intervene somehow after Cooper prevented murder of Laura that evening in the past. I've only watched finale once, but I didn't see any sign of Judy intervening. To me, it was more like the classic time-traveller problem. Cooper can never stop killing of Laura, because the only reason he ever got to know Laura was when he was sent to investigate the case. If Laura is never murdered, Cooper will never get to know her. However, if this is the case, I don't know why they all have different identities in an alternate reality.
I suppose one could argue that technically Cooper already knew Laura because of the lodge sequence where he tells Laura to not take the ring and the conversation he has with Albert about her in FWWM, all prior to learning about her death.
I'm wondering if whatever Laura tells Cooper seals their fate or forces Judy's hand. Immediately afterward Laura screams, the curtains go crazy, and she disappears. We hear the same scream and curtain sounds when she disappears in the woods with Cooper in 1989. Do these things happen "simultaneously" as she is pulled from this reality/dream into the another one that Judy created? If 1989 Laura is ripped from that reality then that future Laura in the lodge with Cooper in 2016 would cease to exist as well.
Fire walk with