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Gordon Cole will remember the un-official version

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(@piquiod)
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 Jeffries tells Coop to say hi to Cole, and that Cole will remember the "unofficial version".

what is the official version?

what is the unofficial version?

Jeffries then sends Cooper to the past, which he does change.

Does Cole recall the events as they went down in TP Seasons 1 & 2 even with the events changing, and is that the unofficial version?

 
Posted : 06/09/2017 12:55 pm
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(@nostar)
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Seems possible. At the time I took it as a self-deprecating joke, that PJ's unofficial version was his old human self and the official one is whatever he is now.

 
Posted : 06/09/2017 12:58 pm
(@b-randy)
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Strange, I took it to mean the discrepancies between what Jeffries (the Bowie  version) said to them in the FBI office back in 1989 and what Cole remembers.

 
Posted : 06/09/2017 1:03 pm
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Strange, I took it to mean the discrepancies between what Jeffries (the Bowie  version) said to them in the FBI office back in 1989 and what Cole remembers.

That's how I took it as well. 

 
Posted : 06/09/2017 1:04 pm
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Posted by: Myn0k
Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Strange, I took it to mean the discrepancies between what Jeffries (the Bowie  version) said to them in the FBI office back in 1989 and what Cole remembers.

That's how I took it as well. 

Or maybe it's a reference to the official version of events as they appear in FBI records/archives versus what "really" happened.

 
Posted : 06/09/2017 1:13 pm
(@daniel_kilbride)
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He means that Gordon Cole, who is in on the plan to defeat Judy, will be the only one to remember the reality in which Laura Palmer was murdered by Leland -- the "unofficial version." The "official version," the one enabled by Cooper's intervention into Laura's timeline in episode 17, is that she disappeared after Cooper keeps her from meeting with Leo and the others.

 
Posted : 12/09/2017 1:19 pm
(@devaneyfan)
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Good ideas.  I wish there was as much focus on what was meant by "remember" as there is on syncs and years.  What is Cooper supposed to remember and why. 

What the giant meant by "Remember."  What Jeffries meant by "He'll remember the unofficial version." What Jeffries meant by " Cooper... remember."

 

 
Posted : 12/09/2017 1:27 pm
(@jackswift)
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Jeff-fries also said something odd in the that scene. "did you already ask it" or something like that.

 
Posted : 12/09/2017 1:50 pm
(@murat_erol_ozkan)
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Posted by: Daniel Kilbride

He means that Gordon Cole, who is in on the plan to defeat Judy, will be the only one to remember the reality in which Laura Palmer was murdered by Leland -- the "unofficial version." The "official version," the one enabled by Cooper's intervention into Laura's timeline in episode 17, is that she disappeared after Cooper keeps her from meeting with Leo and the others.

Ive got it all opposite from this, the other side of 17 is 18, the negative underside of Twin Peaks and Laura Palmer murder which makes 17 and the 'happy ending' result in Odessa and 'world of truck drivers/woodsmen'.....Cole and the Blue Rose Task Force, the major, etc. were never trying to defeat Judy, but to find Judy, thats why Jeffries tells Cooper, 'this is where youll find Judy', so Cole only knows the unoffical version, he has not found Judy and is still in the mode where in 'life prior to Judy' and looking for Judy. Nor did Mr. C find Judy since he was trying to possess or eliminate Judy/negativity which cannot be done since Judy is 'inexistent', which scared Cooper and made him go mad like Mr. C or hide like Dougie(two ways of hiding from the inescapable and basic presence of Judy/negativity which cannot be done away with, death, big bang and nothing, etc.); but the final Cooper we see in 18 finds Judy/negative and must take Laura back to Twin Peaks to negate the terrible life that the 'happy ending' 17 unleashed(the erasure of tragedy and pain at the broken dreams of Laura and Twin Peaks, the hiding from it in Mr. C or viva las vegas) thus erasing dreams and their importance, which dreams themselves seek to negate life unfit for dreams(extreme Mr. C fails in this because too far away from life, then expecting life will somehow respond, deliver him from Judy with some final salvation or 'happy ending' which he is after, and save him the trouble of dealing with it all)....

Cooper now knows this about Judy, Judy as the negative reaction that emerges in the motel, 'where youll find Judy', where the dreams of Diane and Cooper have a negative reaction to the happy ending and Odessa life, where from the negative perspective of dreams the 'happy ending' makes Diane and Cooper into Richard and Linda, Cooper is Mr. C type and Diane is crippled Linda in that life, since they have tried to erase negativity/Judy, to erase dreams.  Its impossible to do, so that 18 is the return after 'finding Judy', no such a thing as destroying something that does not exist.....and Cole never set out to 'destroy Judy', they were trying to find it, went mad, failed, now Cooper has completed the return after 'finding Judy'...

 
Posted : 12/09/2017 2:50 pm
(@rocksem)
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I think unofficial version just relates to him being David Bowie.

 
Posted : 12/09/2017 4:09 pm
(@charlie)
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Glad to have read these ideas about the line.  I had considered it odd, but not had time to put brain matter to it.

 
Posted : 12/09/2017 4:13 pm
(@maythrowaway)
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Perhaps official vs. unofficial is just the FWWM vs. Missing Pieces versions of scenes. Cole and Albert did suddenly remember the MP version of the Philip Jeffries Philadelphia pop-in and disappearance.

 
Posted : 12/09/2017 4:21 pm
(@dianna)
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As I have mentioned elsewhere, I believe the entire thing is Cooper/Richard's dream (or delusion) and that he is a serial killer, so I am providing my answer with that context in mind.  I think the line that "Gordon Cole will remember the unofficial version" is intended to imply that by sending Cooper back to the night of Laura's murder, Cooper will begin slowly unraveling what has really gone on in his life to that point.  After Cooper realizes who/what he really is and that he can't change any of it, others would see him in a different light.  So Jeffries is giving him the reassurance that while Cooper/Richard will learn the truth, the others will continue to be oblivious to the harsh reality (again, in his dream/delusion). 

 
Posted : 12/09/2017 4:30 pm
(@b-randy)
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I think Twin Peaks is becoming a religion.

 
Posted : 12/09/2017 4:32 pm
(@ric_bissell)
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Hi Brandy,
 
Posted by: Brandy Fisher

I think Twin Peaks is becoming a religion.

"Becoming"?  😉

- /< /\ /> -

 
Posted : 12/09/2017 4:40 pm
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