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(@samxtherapy)
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Remember the dude who turned up here from Andromeda, or somewhere?  Well it seems that's exactly what Cooper's done to the entire universe by trying to rescue Laura.  He's retconned everything.  That's how I read it, anyhow.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 2:44 pm
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Stupid retconning. Always ruining it for the rest of us.  😉

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 2:46 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Remember the dude who turned up here from Andromeda, or somewhere?  Well it seems that's exactly what Cooper's done to the entire universe by trying to rescue Laura.  He's retconned everything.  That's how I read it, anyhow.

The exchange between Coop and Diane in the car at 430 miles makes me believe this also. But there's so much I couldn't possibly commit to one version of events. 

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 2:46 pm
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But the retcon failed! That is what I take away from the final scene.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 2:49 pm
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Exactly.  Not disappointed, just sad.

I feel the opposite. Not sad, just a bit disappointed. 

I've mostly enjoyed this season, but the ending was a letdown, partly due to how awesome part 17 was immediately before it. 

A few episodes ago I wanted season 4, but now I don't. It's like if a difficult lover said they were going away for a while after doing something really disappointing just before leaving. I'd feel like saying, "No, I've had enough, just go. I'll move on and find someone else..."

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 2:54 pm
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Posted by: MJ Gilbert

But the retcon failed! That is what I take away from the final scene.

It worked but not in the way Coop wanted, or expected.  

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 2:56 pm
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Posted by: KLynched

Oh, thank goodness!! You are all still here!!!

 

I have to wait for my dosis of TPTR so I ended up watching the finale between one and three in the morning. It left me...

...excoriated.

When I eventually woke up (did I?)  I tried to get on the Forum but it seemed to be broken. When I did get on there was a flurry of owls - new people all over the place and no-one that I "knew". I thought the woodsmen had taken over the Forum! (Apologies to newcomers, who are no doubt perfectly decent people.)

It was with great relief I saw that Caoimhín Shirey was still posting and I (probably) hadn't woken up in the wrong world.

And here you are. What a relief.

 

Apologies for being OT but I don't think I know what's on topic right at the mo.

Ditto! Flurry of owls indeed. The hour after I finished watching and could not access the forum felt like 2:53 forever. 

When I saw some familiars around the table (looking in your direction, Mr. Therapy) I realized I was in the right year.

Can't wait to hear the latest lively discussions.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 3:09 pm
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I will be here, sitting at the formica table. 

I am feeling so disturbed, so uncomfortable. I am not done needing this space.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 3:19 pm
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Posted by: MJ Gilbert

I will be here, sitting at the formica table. 

I am feeling so disturbed, so uncomfortable. I am not done needing this space.

Nor am I.  We shall sit at this formica table until it too disappears, and wait for others to join us.....or get up and leave.  Whatever works for them.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 3:23 pm
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Someone hold me. Please. 

I'm very confused. Mentally and emotionally. 

On the one hand I want answers but on the other I'm torn. Completely torn. 

I feel a bit mugged off to be honest...

I'm hoping that changes soon. 

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 3:52 pm
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Posted by: Myn0k

Someone hold me. Please. 

I'm very confused. Mentally and emotionally. 

On the one hand I want answers but on the other I'm torn. Completely torn. 

I feel a bit mugged off to be honest...

I'm hoping that changes soon. 

Give it time to bed down and read a few of the threads.  Can't guarantee you'll be any happier but you may well understand it a bit better.

It's either the perfect cliffhanger or the perfect, "Haha, Agent Cooper, you're fucked".

All the other plots, sidelines and peripheral characters?  They just go on, as in real life when you die.  That much was as good as thrown in our faces with Hutch and Chantal talking about the guy who died, with Hutch owing him money.

Works for me whichever way they go with the show.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 4:01 pm
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I don't think there'll be another series. 

It was certainly a powerful ending. I think it's starting to piece together for me. 

As a previous poster inferred - episode 17 was the finale. Episode 18 was the epilogue nobody wanted to acknowledge 🙂

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 4:06 pm
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I disagree.  I thought 17 was fanservice, and badly done, at that.  18 was the ending.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 4:08 pm
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Posted by: Myn0k

Someone hold me. Please. 

I'm very confused. Mentally and emotionally. 

On the one hand I want answers but on the other I'm torn. Completely torn. 

I feel a bit mugged off to be honest...

I'm hoping that changes soon. 

I feel yah. I'm still wandering in that same place.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 4:09 pm
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So Laura wasn't the only "one"? By now we know Freddy was destined to destroy BOB, so he is also a chosen one.

Doesn't saving Laura cancelling all the events? Including destruction of BOB?

Also we know that Laura screame in FWWM after she sees Cooper, not BOB...then why he didn't save her in FWWM?. I think he had a chance.

I think MIKE always wanted to destroy BOB, because BOB caused great damage to both lodges and "real" world. 

And right now i understand that all the events beginning from season 1 was an accurate plan of agent Cooper, White forces(Giant, Senorita Dido), Mike and his arm in order to establish the order, and to destroy the experiment, to kill two birds with one stone. He was aware of BOB, and Laura destination, he was about to enter the Black Lodge willingly to stop evil. But we still didn't see the final battle, so can it be destroyed. And if Laura was chosen one, then why The Giant/Fireman hadn't visited her, as he did to Freddie, to tell her about her destination? Why she wasn't ready, as was ready Freddy? Maybe because of The Mother and BOB, who covered her from The Giant/Firemen?

I see that when evil entities became aware of Laura's creation they possesed her future parents Sarah and Leland. Sarah definetely was that girl with frog in mouth, to make themselves easier to destroy her future child, and that's why Laura has so many dark in her, as it can be seen in FWWM. And also exiting of mother inside Sarah explains her habit to forget things, as with Lealand. But still i can't understand why Lealand drugged her while commiting his crimes.

Lauras scream in the end.... we saw another girl screaming just like that in the bar. Strange enough but all of this things about alternate universes seem quiet similar to Assassin's Creed's bleeding effect, when person can fell and see what was in the past while being in modern times. So maybe Carrie became aware of her(i don't know how to call it)Laura if to be short, or she has actually remmembered that she is Laura Palmer and recognized the evil, or The Mother found her, and started to torture. 

Or maybe her scream, scream of Laura in the beginning, and scream of her the day she had to die is the same scream actually?

All of this itching events with girls in bar, i think it's kinda consenquences of The Mother, and screaming girl on dance floor, and guy nehind the bars, as we can see that he has become wilder after Mr. C arrived.

What year is it? Maybe it's a refference not to alternate universe but rather time: Is it future or is it past?  

Many questions, right now i can't ask all of them as i need to think deeper.

Last but not leas, it was a great finale, i never expected things would end like this. Not sure about 4th season, but a movie like FWWM, would be great? As we know that Lynch is actually a mysterious person, so we can expect anything from him.  

Lynch said that parts can be watched independently, so maybe watching them in mixed order will reveal more about all of this?=) And only then we'll have complete picture. 

And another one. Phillip told that Mr.C has already met Judy, but as we know BOB inhabitted C. all the time. Why Mr. C wasn't aware of The Mother?

P.S. sorry for my poor english skill=)

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 4:49 pm
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