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Remember Gordon telling the story of the first Blue Rose case? The lady who ended up being a tulpa said something to the effect "I'm not myself". Diane's tulpa I believe said something similar during the botched assassination attempt. Audrey said something similar to Charlie in one of the roadhouse or no roadhouse scenes. Finally, Laura said something to that effect to James the night she was killed/saved/teleported/whatever.
Is saying something like this a calling sign of a tulpa?
Also, doppelgangers in Coop's case, and Laura's case were pretty darn evil. But a doppelganger is really just a double with your alter ego. So yes, in the case of Coop and Laura they would be pretty wicked. But what would Audrey's look like? To me the type of woman we see with Charlie. He is the opposite of her type, she is not the type of person to fly off the handle (she kept it pretty cool at One Eyed Jack's), she does not need a man to take her out to a bar (again, brothel aged 18). She wouldn't spend so much time worrying about Billy, she would have already had tabs on him. And would also have tabs on all the other players in this little mini drama of hers. I wonder if that was even supposed to be Audrey. Not sure what that all means but it does seem like there is something to it.
I'll have to check on the Lois Duffy story, but as for Audrey and tulpa-Diane, you are correct: very similar language, in scenes that are pretty close together. [Edit: AND Laura in the scene with James replayed not long after those.]
Having rewatched FWWM last night... I don't think so. Laura is shown as a tortured individual, feeling too intensely what she is going through to survive. But I do like the parallelism you've noted, although it could be another red herring.
I believe Lynch has always disavowed interest in psychology, but if you look at Freud's idea of the "uncanny," the doppleganger is going to be intrinsically sinister because he/she is a manifestation of the impulses you are repressing - the alternate reality of you would be, as it were, if you let yourself go. This makes sense for Cooper or Leland, but not for Laura, and I don't think it makes sense for Audrey. For one thing, the only tulpas we know of were made by Bad Coop as part of his scheme to keep from having to go back to the Lodge, and there's no reason for that for Audrey.
I also don't think Audrey is quite as hard-bitten as she pretends to be. She survived One-Eyed Jack's, but she is usually portrayed as kind of a spoiled rich girl who is a bit nuts. The idea that a trauma put her in the "nuthouse" (also a phrase heard a lot this season) makes more dramatic sense. But, interesting!
When Laura says "your Laura is disappeared, it's only me now" she means her psych is mostly destroyed by the traumas and her recently learning that it was her father all along. She is lost, and she can't find the joyful, happy, optimistic girl that she was before.
About Audrey, well.. When you look back at her previous behaviors in the first seasons, you can see her becoming what she is now. First, she didn't care about Laura dying, and was never upset about it. She had missing things from her head... in a bad way. Kinda like Johnny, but different. Yes she locked herself in that bank to make a point, but that is equally unstable if you think about it.
Saying she doesn't feel like herself is a referring to her claustrophobic, trapped situation. This dead end environment she can't get out makes it feel like there's something wrong with her and why she says it. Although the constant swearing draws parallels to Diane, it is very possible that when she became old, she started hating herself, and why she started taking it all out from the outside... She was also raped by Mr C. Her being in an institution is very possible.
And Diane, well when she says she is not herself, she has complete mental breakdown. This is something else entirely.
When Laura says "your Laura is disappeared, it's only me now" she means her psych is mostly destroyed by the traumas and her recently learning that it was her father all along. She is lost, and she can't find the joyful, happy, optimistic girl that she was before.
About Audrey, well.. When you look back at her previous behaviors in the first seasons, you can see her becoming what she is now. First, she didn't care about Laura dying, and was never upset about it. She had missing things from her head... in a bad way. Kinda like Johnny, but different. Yes she locked herself in that bank to make a point, but that is equally unstable if you think about it.
Saying she doesn't feel like herself is a referring to her claustrophobic, trapped situation. This dead end environment she can't get out makes it feel like there's something wrong with her and why she says it. Although the constant swearing draws parallels to Diane, it is very possible that when she became old, she started hating herself, and why she started taking it all out from the outside... She was also raped by Mr C. Her being in an institution is very possible.
And Diane, well when she says she is not herself, she has complete mental breakdown. This is something else entirely.
you are saying these things with the certainty of the writer. I think considering the material we are dealing with here, the correlations stand, proudly.
Also your middle paragraph is mostly speculative, and the only point that really holds is that Audrey didn't care about Laura, which doesn't alter the status of my point regarding Audrey one bit.
It's pretty clear that Laura was a tortured individual, but tulpa-Diane seemed tortured, especially in her final, fatal scene—nothing like the callous Chantal, an apparently real-life assistant to Bad Cooper and perhaps an intentional "foil" to tulpa-Diane. (I'll just throw in that Chantal always wants to eat, which keeps you alive, and tulpa-Diane always wants to drink and smoke, which tends to kill you.)
The quick succession of scenes with Audrey, tulpa-Diane and 1989-Laura all talking about identity crisis is pretty striking. Let's see: Bad Cooper, possessed by Bob, raped Diane and created tulpa-Diane, sending real-Diane into a sort of purgatory, eventually turning up in a disguise. Leland, also possessed by Bob, raped Laura. Is it a big mental leap to conclude that this had the same effect on Laura as it later did on Diane? And there doesn't seem to be much disagreement that Bad Cooper raped Audrey, so...
Audrey was always trying to insert herself into "the story" (you may have noticed this phrase in her scenes) even though she was not involved in it. She tried to involve herself in Laura's death with the Norwegians. She tried to involve herself in Cooper's investigation. She got herself put in a coma by involving herself in the controversy over the Ghostwood development. No surprise that she, in whatever form, is trying to involve herself in real-life intrigues (Billy, etc.) in The Return. She's an attention-seeker. The question is from what metaphysical state she's doing so.
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