I'm gonna leave for now all the controversial stuff in the finale and the question I love or I hate it- time will tell. This topic is about Bob...
I probably mentioned it many times I have been obsessed with BOB for decades! Maybe because I was too young when first seeing TP as a kid I didn't understand a thing in this show apart from Bob. I was so scared yet I wanted to see him. And I had this little hope that somehow we will see some of him in the finale as we did and it was awesome. With dead actor! I love it. And it's great they used mostly unseen footage. Twin Peaks was for me always about BOB.
Notice how BOB went straight for Agent Cooper, and I think that it was Cooper himself who called Mr. C looking for BOB in 'Darya's motel', which is why Cooper went to 430 again and in the convenience motel with Diane....Cooper still had not confronted the negativity that led him to be taken by BOB in the original series, the Freddie solution saved him from going towards Mr. C's automatic and wildly detached negativity, but still he had to confront it, in 'viva las vegas' he had not done it yet, which led to the superficial 'factual' solution, he was headed back to BOB......
I still think Mike is a very likely candidate for being the caller, since he has history with Bob and has been seen chasing him down and pulling him back to get more garmonbozia from him.
Another candidate might be Judy, the mother figure. All the voice said, I'm pretty sure and you can correct me, was "you'll go back in the lodge and I will be with Bob again." Bob didn't have to go back in the lodge with Mr. C, he could have been free to roam I suppose. The Judy/Mother experiment thing and Bob may have had a kind of symbiosis that we don't really see the full extent of. While Mr. C was looking for her, she might have been looking to reunite with Bob. They both could have been preying on Laura, and when Laura was whisked off to 430 land and Bob was shattered Judy could have gone off on her own (in the body of Sarah) to find Laura herself. Cue screaming!
ALSO, I'm intrigued by the notion that if Laura was never killed by Bob in that one multiverse world of Twin Peaks that he is still residing in Leland. That opens up the opportunity for Ray Wise to return as well. Hmmmm?
I'm down for that, he is just spectacular as crazy Leland. They don't even have to dye his hair anymore. XD
I still think Mike is a very likely candidate for being the caller, since he has history with Bob and has been seen chasing him down and pulling him back to get more garmonbozia from him.
Another candidate might be Judy, the mother figure. All the voice said, I'm pretty sure and you can correct me, was "you'll go back in the lodge and I will be with Bob again." Bob didn't have to go back in the lodge with Mr. C, he could have been free to roam I suppose. The Judy/Mother experiment thing and Bob may have had a kind of symbiosis that we don't really see the full extent of. While Mr. C was looking for her, she might have been looking to reunite with Bob. They both could have been preying on Laura, and when Laura was whisked off to 430 land and Bob was shattered Judy could have gone off on her own (in the body of Sarah) to find Laura herself. Cue screaming!
The 'symbiosis' and relations between Judy and BOB/woodsmen are the idea behind nature/world as default(shown in episode 8) without confronting it, living in it positively, the 'world of truck drivers' that takes over during 'sleepwalking'. Thus we could see the relations between mother and BOB in characters like the 'two birds' of Cooper, tulpas of Diane or Laura, as well as with other characters. So ignoring the dreams and negativity, as if it does not exist and just living positively leads to the default situation set up by the governing state of the world today, splitting into 'two birds' relations of Mr. C and Dougie: Dougie was the one governed by 'mother nature'(negativity inherent in nature/how things are governed by default), had almost no interventions, but found the best things to do to integrate himself into 'viva las vegas', and was also led around by women and rich criminals etc...., while Mr. C was BOB the sick force born out of this 'mother nature'/sick nature/failing dreams governing, etc., also trying to directly appropriate the mother/Judy, which one cannot do, since it is 'non-existent' not positive, etc. Thus BOB leads back to Dougie and vice versa, in the infinite loop of nature's negativity, its default slow decay with violent outbursts or natural disaster, as reflected into people who have given up their dreams, then we end up in Odessa and the 'world of truck drivers', accepting 'mother nature' and living in it, while BOB/truck drivers free to take over the day, etc. The relation between mother and BOB is more like positive/factual, discounting Judy as a negative force, going into positivity and letting nature govern directly and automatically, to crush the dreams, etc.
I think the return of Cooper was killing 'two birds with one stone' via Judy, from not trying to hide in 'viva las vegas' and positivity, but confronting in Judy's diner, then returning to the problem, Laura and Twin Peaks. If Freddie had not been there, Agent Cooper would have been with BOB again, because he had just come out of Dougie and still was governed by positivity and violence of natures tyrannous force: Agent Cooper ended up teaming up with mafia, engaging in violence and crime just by trying to integrate himself in nature, get rid of the negativity and live in 'seven heaven'(other side of which is Odessa or rancho rosa), also Agent Cooper tried to enact a 'positive solution' of just factually fixing everything, which failed and led him back to convenience motel where he acted like Mr. C again, Agent Cooper was headed back for BOB again, wanted it but did not know it because of his positive approach, it was only the intervention of Freddie and his 'destiny' which allowed Cooper to avoid BOB, kills the two birds, and complete the proper return via the detour through Judy and Odessa, negating the false positivity of viva las vegas, dougie, and Odessa....
Also you can see the relation between 'mother' and BOB in Diane, BOB raped Diane, etc., then she tried to kill the agents, says f u, etc...Thus Cooper and Diane had to pass back through this, in the positive solution they were headed back here, but with BOB gone, finally can become disillusioned with it, negate it via Judy, etc....
BOB here is something like the 'happy ending' or the positive fix(what happens when hiding from negativity, Judy, etc., both Dougie and Mr. C were hiding in this way, looking for a 'final fix', etc.), giving up dreams(negative dream for something 'inexistent') and taking the 'cue of nature' working on momentum automatically etc., being under positivity, once BOB was destroyed Agent Cooper could complete his mission to kill the two 'natural' and automatic 'birds' and 'get to Judy', use the negativity to break out of it all and get back to where he needed to be in order to begin at the mystery again.
I'm gonna leave for now all the controversial stuff in the finale and the question I love or I hate it- time will tell. This topic is about Bob...
I probably mentioned it many times I have been obsessed with BOB for decades! Maybe because I was too young when first seeing TP as a kid I didn't understand a thing in this show apart from Bob. I was so scared yet I wanted to see him. And I had this little hope that somehow we will see some of him in the finale as we did and it was awesome. With dead actor! I love it. And it's great they used mostly unseen footage. Twin Peaks was for me always about BOB.
Ella, I'm glad I'm not the only one to have a weird repulsion/fascination for BOB. I guess my conflicted attitude shows in my choice of avatar and signature. Frank Silva was devilishly attractive, uncannily disturbing, and irreplaceable. And a metaphor for my own mental problems, feared but also constantly faced and fought.
This said, I was totally disappointed with the final showdown. I thought Freddie had done his part by saving Andy from Chad. When he took on BOB... For the first time in my life I found myself ROOTING FOR BOB. I kept watching Freddie's face to see a hint of the famous scary grin.
I've read somewhere that Freddie is supposed to be a parody of superheroes and the current slew of superhero movies. I don't know, it seems like a weird thing for Lynch/Frost to criticize, it's not exactly a world problem like many other themes they tackled.
I was expecting BOB vs. Dale, or the whole of the Bookhouse Boys, or Hawk, or even Audrey. I got this cartoon character wasting precious minutes beating BOB to smithereens with his magic glove. I mean, even James bringing down BOB would have made more sense to me. Although frankly, BOB has always been cooler than James. 😉
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