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Is anyone able to elaborate on the mythology of the Pale horse? All I know, is that in the Book of revelations, it says "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

A few scenes come to mind which make us think about the pale horse, 

1-It appears when Sarah is drugged and Matty was raped and killed

2-In episode 2 of the Return we see behind the Red curtains of the Lodge, and Behold a pale Horse. It seems to me Lynch implies the Horse is behind the Lodge doings, and if he is using the same bible verse as reference then Death is synonomous with the pale Horse.

3-in the Return we hear a Horse nay at the end of episode 8, after Gotta light does his dirty work, (or after the Bug goes in her ear). Either way, death is implied, for "Gotta light" did kill a few people.

4-and here in 18 the horse(and death) is still following Laura, as a man is sitting on her chair with a bullet in his head.

Can anyone elaborate on this? 

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 1:29 am
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The horse behind the curtains

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 1:31 am
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Posted by: Rilly Rill

Is anyone able to elaborate on the mythology of the Pale horse? All I know, is that in the Book of revelations, it says "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

A few scenes come to mind which make us think about the pale horse, 

1-It appears when Sarah is drugged and Matty was raped and killed

2-In episode 2 of the Return we see behind the Red curtains of the Lodge, and Behold a pale Horse. It seems to me Lynch implies the Horse is behind the Lodge doings, and if he is using the same bible verse as reference then Death is synonomous with the pale Horse.

3-in the Return we hear a Horse nay at the end of episode 8, after Gotta light does his dirty work, (or after the Bug goes in her ear). Either way, death is implied, for "Gotta light" did kill a few people.

4-and here in 18 the horse(and death) is still following Laura, as a man is sitting on her chair with a bullet in his head.

Can anyone elaborate on this? 

In the diary, Laura has a horse named Troy. Sarah tends to see it whenever she is sedated. "Carrie" is also wearing a horseshoe necklace. I assumed it was evidence that she truly was Laura, at least in someone's astral plane/multiverse. Or in Cooper's dream. Shrug. 

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 1:31 am
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Don't forget the horseshoe pendant Laura/Carrie wears in the final scene.

Edit: beaten to the punch.

Anyway, horse was also old slang for heroin, so Sarah's sedation makes sense in that way. In a way a modern interpretation of the fourth horseman could be seen as a modern "sickness of mind," I.e sedation or numbing via entertainment like Sarah's nature show or the internet, etc. Erosion of the soul, so to speak.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 1:33 am
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Matty's death

behold a pale horse

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 1:36 am
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Posted by: MayThrowaway

Don't forget the horseshoe pendant Laura/Carrie wears in the final scene.

the horseshoe! I thought it was a magnet.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 1:37 am
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Gonna throw this one in there because why not? Its a bit odd to me to be silly coincidence. In 1989-90 a book entitled Behold a Pale Horse was written and released by a William Hastings...nah Just kidding, ..William Cooper.(im serious) Its interesting to me because William Bill Hastings was a researcher, with his own website, and was searching for the truth. He ended up dying for it. Thats who William Bill Cooper was. And he also ended up dying for it. He was plotted on and murdered in 2001, just a month and a half after 9/11. On 9/11 Bill Cooper broadcasted his radio show for some 9 hours discussing the events, the possibilities, and reporting news from all over the world. He reported that it was likely a controlled demolition which took down at least one of the two first buildings to collapse. Not to mention building number 7 which came down at freefall speed at 530 pm.

Anyway, Dale *Cooper* also was a man in search for the truth, and ended up paying for it with life altering events. If the Pale Horse and Death are behind the Lodge curtains of Twin Peaks, perhaps David Lynch is telling us they are also behind the Curtains of the Mainstream Media's political circus and war rumors, racial tensions, and uncertainty of our future.

 
 
Posted : 04/09/2017 2:08 am
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Come on guys, the horse is the white of the eyes.  The woodsman said it, like, over and over and over again.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 3:15 am
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Posted by: shrrrrrrrrrrk
Posted by: Rilly Rill

Is anyone able to elaborate on the mythology of the Pale horse? All I know, is that in the Book of revelations, it says "And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

A few scenes come to mind which make us think about the pale horse, 

1-It appears when Sarah is drugged and Matty was raped and killed

2-In episode 2 of the Return we see behind the Red curtains of the Lodge, and Behold a pale Horse. It seems to me Lynch implies the Horse is behind the Lodge doings, and if he is using the same bible verse as reference then Death is synonomous with the pale Horse.

3-in the Return we hear a Horse nay at the end of episode 8, after Gotta light does his dirty work, (or after the Bug goes in her ear). Either way, death is implied, for "Gotta light" did kill a few people.

4-and here in 18 the horse(and death) is still following Laura, as a man is sitting on her chair with a bullet in his head.

Can anyone elaborate on this? 

In the diary, Laura has a horse named Troy. Sarah tends to see it whenever she is sedated. "Carrie" is also wearing a horseshoe necklace. I assumed it was evidence that she truly was Laura, at least in someone's astral plane/multiverse. Or in Cooper's dream. Shrug. 

They are not they same horse though. Troy was cinnamon red and deep brown.

 
Posted : 04/09/2017 10:21 am
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the silver mustang------white horse

Horseshoe

I cant believe i am just putting that together!

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 1:05 am
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Also the White Horse at Judy's. Lets also recall Lauras(Carrie) Horseshoe pendant.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 1:07 am
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Linda has a neckless as horseshoe...

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 1:20 am
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Posted by: Ozan Yal?n

Linda has a neckless as horseshoe...

I think it is Carrie(Laura( youre referring to. But maybe im wrong. Did she have one?

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 1:42 am
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I was just going to start a thread on this myself. Scattered around this series are cowboys, there's the statue that fascinates Duggie, there's the picture in Bushnell's office. The archetypal good guy rides a white charger. It's the clearest, most blatant symbol of the pure at heart good guy. 

It feels to me that Frost and Lynch may have had Cooper's fallibility in mind all the way through the original series.

The white horse, the 'white of the eye', is part of the mantra used by the woodsmen to lull the town to sleep during their broadcast. This broadcast of theirs is in direct opposition to Jacobi's. His broadcast was so important to Lynch/Frost that they showed us the same one twice. Although it's framed as a rant, something we would normally discount, Jacobi really is doing good. He wants us to wake up, just as Mike wanted Coop to wake up. And it worked. Jacobi contributes to one of the few purely positive moments of the season, Ed and Norma's union. He's had a genuinely positive influence on the town, and it happened because he managed to make a change in Nadine.

But the woodsmen have precisely the opposite effect, they send the town into a sleep that allows evil to creep in. And one of the ways they do this is by repeating the trope of the white horse, the symbol of pure good, the infallible hero. We see the white eyed in the good lodge, the evil doppelgangers (sometimes) have black eyes. Again, the heroes are white.

The fact that we see the white horse in times when people lose control, when they're lulled to sleep. I'm thinking also of Sarah. I think what we might be seeing is a representation of people who are allowing their desire for a pure hearted allowing themselves to become vulnerable. 

The townspeople, as they listen to the saccharine, mawkish music, allow themselves to be lulled into vulnerability by tales of the horse who's the white of the eye. Sarah allows herself to be lulled to sleep, preferring to pretend to believe Leland's a hero, rather than admitting that he's dark within. 

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 2:19 am
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