Anybody else feel like the death of BadCoop was totally anticlimactic? Kyle was monstrous this season - he totally sold it all the way through, god bless him - then at the end it's like 'Oh, Lucy shot him. Bye.'
The revelation of an even bigger baddy (Judy) diminishes the importance of BadCoop.
One could only expect that if Judy is defeated then it would be revealed that she's just the servant of X, higher up the evil food chain. Loop keeps going.
There's been hardly any discussion about BadCoop's exit. I think it's b/c they diminished its importance by the immediate shift to Mulholland Twin Highway Inland disintegration and NON EXISSSSTAAAANNCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Well, Lucy didn't actually kill Evil Cooper. She merely incapacitated him allowing the Woodsmen to remove Bob. The body would revive as shown when Ray shot him earlier. Evil Cooper/BOB is actually defeated by Freddie/One Punch Man. A super hero.
I agree.
Mr C was the best thing about the show. Not only was he easily killed, but we didn't even find out what it was he wanted. Thus making all his hard work and evil genius planning kind of pointless. Well, not entirely pointless - the show was amazing. But I don't think Frost or Lynch gave service to the amazing mythos they'd built up around him across the 16 episodes.
I think Lucy shot him dead and that's why Bob came out. He didn't come all the way out last time cuz he wasn't deeeeeed yet.
Well, Lucy didn't actually kill Evil Cooper. She merely incapacitated him allowing the Woodsmen to remove Bob. The body would revive as shown when Ray shot him earlier. Evil Cooper/BOB is actually defeated by Freddie/One Punch Man. A super hero.
BOB is actually defeated by Freddie.
Evil Cooper is defeated by 1) Lucy shooting him, and 2) Good Cooper putting the ring on his finger and sending him back to the lodge/waiting room.
I don't remember Freddie landing one punch on Evil Cooper.
I agree.
Mr C was the best thing about the show. Not only was he easily killed, but we didn't even find out what it was he wanted. Thus making all his hard work and evil genius planning kind of pointless. Well, not entirely pointless - the show was amazing. But I don't think Frost or Lynch gave service to the amazing mythos they'd built up around him across the 16 episodes.
Yes, ironically for a director who likes to take his time and stretch things out, he sometimes PLOWS through really key moments, diminishing their importance, in a rush to get to the next slow thing. lol.
Well, Lucy didn't actually kill Evil Cooper. She merely incapacitated him allowing the Woodsmen to remove Bob. The body would revive as shown when Ray shot him earlier. Evil Cooper/BOB is actually defeated by Freddie/One Punch Man. A super hero.
BOB is actually defeated by Freddie.
Evil Cooper is defeated by 1) Lucy shooting him, and 2) Good Cooper putting the ring on his finger and sending him back to the lodge/waiting room.
I don't remember Freddie landing one punch on Evil Cooper.
Yeah, Freddie was way to busy getting his ass kicked by Bob.
Did anyone else think Freddie's head was going to get the same treatment as Tracey and whatshisname way back in NY?
Well, Lucy didn't actually kill Evil Cooper. She merely incapacitated him allowing the Woodsmen to remove Bob. The body would revive as shown when Ray shot him earlier. Evil Cooper/BOB is actually defeated by Freddie/One Punch Man. A super hero.
BOB is actually defeated by Freddie.
Evil Cooper is defeated by 1) Lucy shooting him, and 2) Good Cooper putting the ring on his finger and sending him back to the lodge/waiting room.
I don't remember Freddie landing one punch on Evil Cooper.
Yeah, Freddie was way to busy getting his ass kicked by Bob.
Did anyone else think Freddie's head was going to get the same treatment as Tracey and whatshisname way back in NY?
Yes, and surely that was on purpose. It was also like Sarah Palmer's charming inside-face friend biting nasty Truck You guy's throat out.
Yes, and I think that was absolutely deliberate. As a quest, it turns out returning Mr. C to the Lodge was a bit of misdirection. We thought it was the whole point of the show, but it was more like putting down a rabid dog that's been terrorizing the neighborhood. Not a pleasant task, and someone's gotta do it - but no big deal to trained professionals. Mr. C never mattered as much as he (and we) thought he did. The Fireman, the Blue Rose task force, and Cooper all had bigger fish to fry.
It also fits the brilliantly executed theme of taking evil people down a peg. In this show, Bad Guys don't even get the dignity of dying a badass death. Hutch and Chantal got mowed down by an accountant with a bad case of road rage. Mundanity is a delicious punishment that way. Maybe Mr. C was a legend in his own mind, but it turns out he wasn't that big a deal. Being shot by Lucy Brennan and getting his one-way ticket to oblivion is no more or less than Mr. C deserved. He didn't even get to travel first-class. 😉
Well, Lucy didn't actually kill Evil Cooper. She merely incapacitated him allowing the Woodsmen to remove Bob. The body would revive as shown when Ray shot him earlier. Evil Cooper/BOB is actually defeated by Freddie/One Punch Man. A super hero.
BOB is actually defeated by Freddie.
Evil Cooper is defeated by 1) Lucy shooting him, and 2) Good Cooper putting the ring on his finger and sending him back to the lodge/waiting room.
I don't remember Freddie landing one punch on Evil Cooper.
Yeah, Freddie was way to busy getting his ass kicked by Bob.
Did anyone else think Freddie's head was going to get the same treatment as Tracey and whatshisname way back in NY?
Yes, and surely that was on purpose. It was also like Sarah Palmer's charming inside-face friend biting nasty Truck You guy's throat out.
I'm still unsure why Freddie still has his face. It seems he took very minimal damage for as many hits as he seemed to take.
I agree.
Mr C was the best thing about the show. Not only was he easily killed, but we didn't even find out what it was he wanted. Thus making all his hard work and evil genius planning kind of pointless. Well, not entirely pointless - the show was amazing. But I don't think Frost or Lynch gave service to the amazing mythos they'd built up around him across the 16 episodes.
For the sake of symmetry, I like to think Mr. C wanted the same thing as his counterpart Cooper: to find Judy (for more or less opposite reasons).
Aye, agreed. It wuz shite.
Quite a lot of episode 17 wuz shite, IMO. Fanervice, thrown together bits and pieces to give some stuff a tidy ending, exposition city...
It wuz shite.
😉
Yes, and I think that was absolutely deliberate. As a quest, it turns out returning Mr. C to the Lodge was a bit of misdirection. We thought it was the whole point of the show, but it was more like putting down a rabid dog that's been terrorizing the neighborhood. Not a pleasant task, and someone's gotta do it - but no big deal to trained professionals. Mr. C never mattered as much as he (and we) thought he did. The Fireman, the Blue Rose task force, and Cooper all had bigger fish to fry.
It also fits the brilliantly executed theme of taking evil people down a peg. In this show, Bad Guys don't even get the dignity of dying a badass death. Hutch and Chantal got mowed down by an accountant with a bad case of road rage. Mundanity is a delicious punishment that way. Maybe Mr. C was a legend in his own mind, but it turns out he wasn't that big a deal. Being shot by Lucy Brennan and getting his one-way ticket to oblivion is no more or less than Mr. C deserved. He didn't even get to travel first-class. 😉
It's a fair point, but didn't the 'heroes' and 'good' characters also get similarly dispatched, as if unimportant? Not by being quickly killed but by being quickly negated by the immediate shift to the basement of the Great Northern.
I agree, Brandy, about thinking Freddie would suffer the same fate as the two young people in NYC. Am glad he didn't (truth be told, I kind of had a small crush on Freddie).
For the sake of symmetry, I like to think Mr. C wanted the same thing as his counterpart Cooper: to find Judy (for more or less opposite reasons).
I agree. We found out that they really were mirror images even with regard to motivation.
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