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Bad Dale vs. Mr. C

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(@teo-peaks)
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I miss the bad Dale from the last episode of the 2nd season, the whole "Where's Annie" attitude, or him smiling at the camera in the lodge, that was great. 

In comparison, Mr. C, who's supposed to be him, is rather boring I find.

Childish perversity was way more interesting than this cold-blooded batman-voiced murderer.

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 3:01 pm
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Well, Mr. C is what you get when Bad Dale has spent a quarter-century stewing in his own badness. At some point you lose your boyish enthusiasm for being a fiend, settle into a boring career as a full-time baddie, and get jaded by the whole thing like every other middle-aged professional. I mean, the hair and jacket do look a little mid-life-crisis-y now I think about it. 😉

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 3:22 pm
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That is very true Sonia 🙂

Even life on the bad side becomes routine I suppose. 

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 3:32 pm
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Mister C matured in order to maintain control over his collection of minions.  He can't be the silly "Bad Dale" from the end of Season 2 and inspire his troops. 

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 4:51 pm
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I think he just got old and boring.

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 4:54 pm
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 But seriously, I do wonder why they wrote such a boring (at least to me) character

Each scene with him felt like chewing plastic

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 5:07 pm
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I didn't find him boring, just extremely stoic.

Yes, more cold blooded, kill-you-in-your-sleep batman and less Jim Carrey The Riddler.  I'm okay with it.  🙂

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 5:12 pm
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I wasn't bored with him either.  I thought he was a formidable antagonist.  He had lots of elaborate plans and he had badass technology skills.  There were lots of people in his network who were willing to do what he wanted them to do.  He was cold and relentless.  I wouldn't want to mess with him.

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 5:24 pm
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I wonder if they were purposefully trying to remove any comic style villainy from him.....

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 5:30 pm
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I'd rather the cold, distant Mr C than yet another in your face Joker wannabe.  Besides which, Heath Ledger showed the best ever way to portray that particular maniac.

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 5:47 pm
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I can already envision a meme featuring Mr. C in joker makeup saying "wait'll they get a load of me."

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 5:52 pm
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I'll have to work on it.  Audrey did look like old Jack, though.  I really had to do that one.

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 5:57 pm
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The earlier bad Dale was a newborn, a baby. I know he had good Coops memories but he was still like a child.

I liked Mr  C, in spite of himself. He didn't ask to be born and got thrown into the world with Bob baggage all through him. There is a religious theme here. Even many people who believe in some kind of God or creator are angry at this being who appears to show considerable irresponsibility toward its creation. Mr C played the cards he was dealt. He didn't decide what he would be; no one does.

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 6:04 pm
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Posted by: Jocelyn Rowe

The earlier bad Dale was a newborn, a baby. I know he had good Coops memories but he was still like a child.

I liked Mr  C, in spite of himself. He didn't ask to be born and got thrown into the world with Bob baggage all through him. There is a religious theme here. Even many people who believe in some kind of God or creator are angry at this being who appears to show considerable irresponsibility toward its creation. Mr C played the cards he was dealt. He didn't decide what he would be; no one does.

Great analysis, thank you

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 6:12 pm
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I considered Bad Dale's persona at the end of season two to be an expression of freedom and victory. He was excited to be OUT in the world, overtly emotional and giddy. Who knows how long that lasted, though? Having Cooper's intellect, he may have sobered up in a day or less, for all we know, and been Mr. C for the vast majority of the 25 years he was free.

As for the appeal of the character (or lack thereof), I thought he was a chilling and fascinating bad guy. Thoroughly enjoyed Mr. C.

 
Posted : 20/09/2017 8:34 pm
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