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Apologies if there has been a thread about this already, but I am just dreading the notion that all of this -- either The Return, or the entire show (seasons 1 & 2 and The Return) -- will have been someone's dream.
If maybe just some parts of it have been a dream, or alternate realities, then I guess I could roll with that. A little.
How about you? What do you think it'll turn out to be?
- The entire run of The Return will have been a dream.
- The entire show -- seasons 1 & 2 and The Return -- have been a dream.
- Bits and pieces of The Return have been a dream, but not all of it.
- Everything has been based in a reality, a reality that includes the lodges, the convenience store, the Dutchman, etc.
#4 - with Audrey experiencing something that could be described as a forced dream that is created by something in the "reality" of the show.
Here's a wild idea...
None of it is a dream. They are all facets of different, fractured realities leaking into each other somehow.
That would be really something. I don't think it's the case here but it would be one hell of a way to wrap it up.
How about you? What do you think it'll turn out to be?
- The entire run of The Return will have been a dream.
Oh no, that's OK for Lost not for Twin Peaks !
Well, we have been treated with several pop culture references through out this entire season, so I guess a Bobby Ewing reference isn't that far-fetched. But I certainly hope not.
Btw, here in Sweden, when that "Bobby Ewing in the shower" episode of Dallas aired, the switchboard of the National Swedish Broadcasting Company broke down due to all the phonecalls from viewers who just couldn't understand wtf was going on. And this was in the 80's! And it happened despite the fact that all the biggest newspapers in Sweden already had covered this story weeks in advance, so that people wouldn't be too suprised (in Sweden, Dallas aired two or three years after it was aired in the US). And I do believe even the National Swedish Broadcasting Company had aired some pre-info about it too.
How about you? What do you think it'll turn out to be?
- The entire run of The Return will have been a dream.
Oh no, that's OK for Lost not for Twin Peaks !
I don't know why people still think that all of lost was a dream or made up. It wasn't! Just the flash sideways in the last season! 😀
I hope it's number 4. I want all that weird stuff to be "real".
The it's a dream thing is too easy.
Well, we have been treated with several pop culture references through out this entire season, so I guess a Bobby Ewing reference isn't that far-fetched. But I certainly hope not.
Btw, here in Sweden, when that "Bobby Ewing in the shower" episode of Dallas aired, the switchboard of the National Swedish Broadcasting Company broke down due to all the phonecalls from viewers who just couldn't understand wtf was going on. And this was in the 80's! And it happened despite the fact that all the biggest newspapers in Sweden already had covered this story weeks in advance, so that people wouldn't be too suprised (in Sweden, Dallas aired two or three years after it was aired in the US). And I do believe even the National Swedish Broadcasting Company had aired some pre-info about it too.
Oh wow, that's hilarious!
I remember watching that "Bobby Ewing in the shower" episode when it first aired (am showing my age a bit). Was at my grandmother's house, and was watching it with her, my mom and dad. When that scene came on, the adults in the room groaned. I didn't follow the show enough to understand the ramifications.
The "it was all a dream" is not an original idea at all. I would be disappointed if they went down this route.
However,
It wouldn't surprise me if they go down the route that thoughts, dreams, etc, all create small bubble universes, or that one person's dream is another person's reality.
The line "who is the dreamer?" - I really hope it wasn't meant as a literal question.
I do have faith in frost and lynch. The idea of it all being a dream sounds tacky and unoriginal, but I hope that if they do go down that road then it will be cleverly done.
#3. I'm with the people saying that random characters and conversations seen around the Roadhouse (the ones that don't seem to fit with anything else) are figments of Audrey's imagination.
The Return has been like a big jigsaw puzzle where we were shown a few pieces at a time. Little by little, most of the pieces turned out to fit together somehow. A few didn't, and I think that means they're from a different puzzle - the one in Audrey's head.
If she's in an institution of some kind, she could be hearing nurses/staff gossiping about their social lives and piecing those conversations into a long-running dream/hallucination based at the Roadhouse. She could be hearing these big-name acts on the radio and placing them at the Roadhouse too.
Audrey was held back for a long time, and it's not because she wasn't important. I think it's now clear she was always a big part of the plan, so it would make sense if they were working up to her by showing us these bits and pieces from her consciousness (or unconsciousness).
But I definitely don't think we'll find out the whole show has been a dream. Odd and Lynchian and wacked-out as it is, it has its own logic and fits together well enough (plus, that would be one outrageous copout). I also don't think everything at the Roadhouse has been a dream - as in the scenes with James and Shelley and Richard, etc. The Roadhouse is a real place within the show, so they're allowed to stage some real scenes there along with the imagined ones.
Methinks there will be a lot of rewatching when this is all over!
Here's a wild idea...
None of it is a dream. They are all facets of different, fractured realities leaking into each other somehow.
That would be really something. I don't think it's the case here but it would be one hell of a way to wrap it up.
I think this is supported by the articles on parallel universes contained on the http://www.thesearchforthezone.com website founded by Bill Hastings (RIP)
I think it's #3 but with David Lynch we cannot be sure of anything.
Multiple realities (universes) in a state of flux that may result in an alternate history due to one of the parallels replacing, or taking over, the other(s) thus becoming the accepted one (in the TP World).
That said, I really don't have a f'ing clue how it is all gonna play out. Hope to be pleasantly surprised and can't wait for the finale!
Inception was pretty damn good,
Maybe it just is.
We are like the dreamer who lives within the dream.
David Lynch is the dreamer, he lives (acts) inside this dream of a show, but we (audience and detectives) are like him because we're all trying to decipher clues and figure out what's real. The artist/dreamer came up with these ideas perhaps without a singular explanation in mind--neither a single dream nor blending realities. Lynch probably thinks there could be a bunch of interpretations. And so we too can come up with a bunch of interpretations.
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