Around the dinner table, the conversation was lively. Thank you but for now, the forum has been archived.
I try not to look too much at the little details (text fonts and upper/lower cases, the day on Andy's watch, Mr. C driving by the same stretch of road, the extras in the RR Cafe changing between scene cuts, etc.)
These are minor mistakes common to any television or film production (just check out the 'goofs' section on any IMDB page). And, while David Lynch is certainly wonderful at his craft, his also not perfect. Mistakes happen. Continuity errors happen.
And, seeing is as how we're likely to only really have answers/resolutions to the bigger plot points, I'm not going to sweat the small stuff, especially since a lot if it is probably down to production errors.
I would have to say that continuity and details are NOT what surrealistic cinema cares about. Lynch's stuff is not concerned with details, it's meant to be felt rather than analyzed. Whatever confusion these "details" cause is by design, not mistakes.
Ya... this is my take from another thread...
I won't get into the nitty gritty of SMS and iMessage.
"Hate to be a bummer but it's pretty hard to get iMessage or a text message to say what you want it to. You would have to unlock the phone and dig into the code of the app. Which would be notoriously difficult.
Or do some digital imaging on the stem with the iPhones being used. (Expensive)
The thought process on set would be let's get the second unit to grab some roll of the phones just in case we need it later.
This might just happen whenever the second unit hits it in their checklist for the day after everyone goes home.
Or even in the editing suite in post.
Or you roll B at the time you want the next day, or any other day.
Maybe they didn't think that people would dissect each frame looking for clues. Or maybe they did..."
Maybe there are two tulpa Diane's on Earth and real Diane stuck in a lodge?
Maybe so. I also think that Lynch threw us a clue early on with Diane's sweater... there were two mirror-image designs on the front (sorta looking like sea horses).
Maybe there are two tulpa Diane's on Earth and real Diane stuck in a lodge?
Maybe so. I also think that Lynch threw us a clue early on with Diane's sweater... there were two mirror-image designs on the front (sorta looking like sea horses).
mmm yes, good catch. dragons, i think. and did you notice how in the moments leading up to her revelation that "i'm not me" she is grabbing the neck of that sweater in a way that suggests she's being strangled by it.
Yeah, I agree... it certainly looked like the sweater was causing her stress.
Do you think there were two Diane's in the hotel? One real and the other her tulpa? That may explain a number of strange things with bracelets, text messages that aren't identical, etc.
I think it would be much more interesting if the real Diane sent her tulpa to assassinate the Blue Rose Task Force.
It's also possible she has a little army of tulpas, hence the small differences in clothing and the like. Possible, but not probable.
I try not to look too much at the little details (text fonts and upper/lower cases, the day on Andy's watch, Mr. C driving by the same stretch of road, the extras in the RR Cafe changing between scene cuts, etc.)
These are minor mistakes common to any television or film production (just check out the 'goofs' section on any IMDB page). And, while David Lynch is certainly wonderful at his craft, his also not perfect. Mistakes happen. Continuity errors happen.
And, seeing is as how we're likely to only really have answers/resolutions to the bigger plot points, I'm not going to sweat the small stuff, especially since a lot if it is probably down to production errors.
I would have to say that continuity and details are NOT what surrealistic cinema cares about. Lynch's stuff is not concerned with details, it's meant to be felt rather than analyzed. Whatever confusion these "details" cause is by design, not mistakes.
Having read The Secret History, it is clear that Mark Frost is incredibly focused on continuity and details. I think it is a perfect combination of Lynch appreciated the feeling these discrepancies create and Frost geeking out by creating them. My guess is Frost is responsible for the Diane discrepancies, but Lynch loved the unsettled feeling they would create.
Diane closes the bag before leaving the bar
What is that longer message appearing immediately before ": - ) ALL." when she is putting the phone back into her purse?!
If - and I do stress if - they are continuity errors, they're deliberate. Either in a Tarantino style deliberate, or done to underscore a metatextual message regarding the show itself, such as my Charlie idea.
For all we know, even if my idea is wrong, who is to say the Fireman isn't retconning reality from moment to moment, to ensure the best possible outcome?
I have an idea that the Fireman and his crew operate strictly by the rules and can't intervene directly but can shove things along here and there, by slightly changing a variable here and there, or maybe introducing another element into the arena. It's similar to going back to a restart point in a game; you try something different each time until you progress.
At a very basic level, Twin Peaks is very much like a regular old school video game... Kill the bad guys, save the girl.
Diane's bracelets!!
Compare 32:58 to 35:52. Those scenes. She supposedly walks from the bar to the FBI. But her righthand bracelets switch order. From elbow out, they first go yellow red, then red yellow. Could be another continuity error. But I mention it because those are important colors.
Ya... this is my take from another thread...
I won't get into the nitty gritty of SMS and iMessage.
"Hate to be a bummer but it's pretty hard to get iMessage or a text message to say what you want it to. You would have to unlock the phone and dig into the code of the app. Which would be notoriously difficult."
It's easy as pie, what do you mean?
Ya... this is my take from another thread...
I won't get into the nitty gritty of SMS and iMessage.
"Hate to be a bummer but it's pretty hard to get iMessage or a text message to say what you want it to. You would have to unlock the phone and dig into the code of the app. Which would be notoriously difficult."
It's easy as pie, what do you mean?
[in hushed voice:] I think Ollie was being sarcastic.
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