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I think that everyone has the right to understand art in their own way. I have the right to take Cooper's words seriously.
I fully agree that bad Coop has some alluring features (and that's not cool), but I fully disagree that newly awakened Coop is that what you say. I actually cried salty tears (a RARE occurrence) when he woke up. I found him to be strong and perfect. He has the beautiful innocence and purity of Dougie; he has that and so much more.
I think someone who feels that way about Cooper actually really feels that way about Lynch.
There has been a trend lately to find Lynch pretentious and patronizing, especially since the whole TM thing.
It's a logical reaction, not much based on anyting deep, but logical.
I dont find Lynch pretensious or patronizing at all. I love his movies.
I just dont like Agent Cooper, I never did, even in first seasons. His words like ""Bushnell, I will not soon forgive your kindness.''You both have filled my heart.''You both have hearts of Gold." sound too pathetically for me.
In this series were many touching scenes (for example in the restaurant with Mitchum brothers) but words of agent Cooper and his behavior are not touching my soul.
I think you are really missing out on the point that this kind of communication, from Cooper, isn't a common thing in the world. Cooper LOVES the town of Twin Peaks, because he belongs there. Twin Peaks is not normal, neither is Cooper. His language should not be taken so seriously or judged in this way, it carries an intended surreal quality, often it is meant to make you laugh. His character represents the positive, he has a childlike delight in the world and doesn't care to engage in ego, he is all about spirit.
Consider the use of humour and surreal intent in the writing of Twin Peaks. There is lots, esp. with Cooper. It's not meant to be serious, it's meant to be an experience and asks you to leave your ego at the door.
I dont think that Cooper belongs to the town of Twin Peaks. More to FBI.
I have always seen Cooper as an ideas driven character. First and foremost, he's there to move the narrative forward. His characteristics, personality and such are there as convenient hooks to hang ideas on. His attitude reminds me very much of the "Big Blue Boy Scout" aspects of Superman; the righteous, noble hero, which is almost too good to be true. I don't think it's meant to be taken entirely seriously, either. We're invited to smile a little at his wide eyed innocence and old school good manners, but at the same time, we're reminded how much better the world could be if more people behaved in this way.
Maybe he was so noble, so perfect that he did not admit the existence of his dark side.
Maybe If he allowed himself some darkness, he might not be stuck in Black Lodge for 25 years, and Mr. C would not be so strong.
I was just kidding about it being a troll. We've had Dale Cooper on screen for what, maybe 5 minutes? But he is what is perverse in the TP universe? Okay. Sure.
Estera, you said yourself your English isn't great, is it not possible that you are misinterpreting Cooper's words? It seems like you have, especially if you think he is patronising towards others. English is very complex, it's my first language and to me he comes across as highly respectful towards others, a genuine & honourable man.
I understand that he is a wonderful person, all fans of TPs love him, I just say that for me is too perfect, too noble, too proud, too glad with himself. Maybe If he allowed himself some darkness, he might not be stuck in Black Lodge for 25 years, and Mr. C would not be so strong.
And perhaps his pathetic words stemmed from the fact that he looked into the depths of the hearts of Janey-E and Mitchum brothers and saw that there are good people, even brothers Mitchum. OK I understand that.
"In fact, forget the Alpha if you have a single minded, strong willed character. A certain Charlie Chaplin impersonator got away with it for years."
If that was his Chaplin impression, it really sucked.
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