Around the dinner table, the conversation was lively. Thank you but for now, the forum has been archived.
This is pretty geeky, but every once in a while after the new Battlestar Galactica ended, I would have an odd dream in which the final 10 episodes of the series had not yet aired and I was watching them for the first time.
Each time I've had this dream (probably a half dozen times in all, maybe more) the strangest thing is that the final 10 episodes don't feature ANY of the main characters. It's as if they've all completely DISAPPEARED. The story takes a totally different turn and never answers any of the storylines in play. It's a weird dream of not just an Unfinished Narrative, but of a nearly abandoned one. Total violation of expectations.
I haven't had a dream like that about the new Twin Peaks (yet, haha) but the shows are similar in that they call into question fundamental ideas about identity and what constitutes the core of a person. And both shows sort of reverberate in my unconsciousness.
Anyway, I was thinking that the WEIRDEST thing that Lynch/Frost could do for eps 17 & 18 would be something like my dream. No BadCoop, no GoodCoop, no Audrey, no Gordon, etc. A total absence of the primary characters and stories. They're not even referenced (And maybe that's not that far off from the way Inland Empire disintegrates in the last third.)
I would describe this as the least satisfying possible conclusion of this season. It's super unlikely, but wouldn't that be a mind f***? Haha
Fascinating idea. I'd argue, to the contrary, that Inland Empire becomes more coherent in the final act... but that's another story.
Elsewhere on the forum, I've voiced my apprehension that concrete closure to Twin Peaks would, IMO, run afoul of what made the show so compelling in the first place. Others disagree, some vehemently, but I'd like to see this end in the fashion of FWWM, Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, Inland Empire... We'll see!
Fascinating idea. I'd argue, to the contrary, that Inland Empire becomes more coherent in the final act... but that's another story.
Elsewhere on the forum, I've voiced my apprehension that concrete closure to Twin Peaks would, IMO, run afoul of what made the show so compelling in the first place. Others disagree, some vehmeently, but I'd like to see this end in the fashion of FWWM, Lost Highway, Mulholland Drive, Inland Empire... We'll see!
Glad you find it interesting.
I'd be interested in hearing your take on Inland. I've tried re-watching it a few times and the last hour loses me entirely. I do think it's interesting that the woman who is playing Naido is also the Japanese woman on the street in Inland Empire sitting next to Laura Dern, who may somehow be speaking Dern's thoughts? I don't remember it well enough to sort it further.
Of course-- fascinating story about your dream. I'l have to give that some more thought.
Re: Inland Empire
Well... I just finished rewatching it for the first time since 2006... Not sure why I let it go for so long!
I really enjoyed it, this time around-- much more so for being embroiled in the midst of The Return. Suffice it to say that I think each of the female characters in Inland Empire are poetic expressions of a single woman's experience... So while the free-wheeling, hairpin narrative is befuddling, it takes on some coherence with some distance or time (rather like dreaming, no?) Maybe I'll open a thread in the "Off-Topic" category about Inland Empire, Mulholland Drive. Lost Highway and Twin Peaks.... For now, thanks for some interesting food for thought!
Had a strange dream a few weeks ago that I had Michael Ontkean on the phone, and he was directing me to find something (can't remember what, now). But it was his voice, clear as day. He's only been a silent phone transaction throughout this entire season. So strange to have the series without him.
Of course-- fascinating story about your dream. I'l have to give that some more thought.
Re: Inland Empire
Well... I just finished rewatching it for the first time since 2006... Not sure why I let it go for so long!
I really enjoyed it, this time around-- much more so for being embroiled in the midst of The Return. Suffice it to say that I think each of the female characters in Inland Empire are poetic expressions of a single woman's experience... So while the free-wheeling, hairpin narrative is befuddling, it takes on some coherence with some distance or time (rather like dreaming, no?) Maybe I'll open a thread in the "Off-Topic" category about Inland Empire, Mulholland Drive. Lost Highway and Twin Peaks.... For now, thanks for some interesting food for thought!
That would make some sense in the extended Lynchian universe where people often seem to have twins/doppelgangers, either literal or imagined/dreamed and the narrative mash up is non-linear and more circular and subconscious. I think that would be make a good off-topic thread. Maybe I'll dare to watch some of Inland again before Sunday. Cheers.
We're going to have two hours of the Abe Woodsman asking for a light, finishing with James singing at the Roadhouse.
Had a strange dream a few weeks ago that I had Michael Ontkean on the phone, and he was directing me to find something (can't remember what, now). But it was his voice, clear as day. He's only been a silent phone transaction throughout this entire season. So strange to have the series without him.
Yes, that seems fairly random, especially since he's been absent in S03. If he was a favorite of yours perhaps your subconscious has decided to flesh out his part in the show while also dropping you in as a player too.
We're going to have two hours of the Abe Woodsman asking for a light, finishing with James singing at the Roadhouse.
That would be my Clockwork Orange moment, with sticks keeping my eyes open, until I crack.
I have had MANY dreams over the years about the continuation of TP, most of them taking place 25 years later.
Being dreams, I remember little, except for an image of Dale (Mr. C?) in an alley. What I know, though, is that they were not precedent in the slightest.
Last episode will be Lucy telling Andy to put the chair there THERE, him moving it, slowly, and then her tell him, no, move it THERE. fir an hour.
I have to admit, 2 weeks ago I would have said we will get 1 or maybe 2 serious answers to many of our long standing questions. 2 weeks have gone by, and I am slowing starting to believe we are going to end with much more resolution than I ever imagined. Now does that mean 100% to 80% of questions answered? no. It means I have risen the bar from 10% to 25% of our questions.
I am also ready for the last episode to be a return to the darkness. I continue to tell myself that these mostly feel good episodes lately are setting us up for the bottom to drop out.
As far as Twin Peaks dreams go, I once had a dream that the man from another place chased me inside a department store late at night. I remember hiding under the stair case and watching from the shadows as he slowly and quietly ascended them.
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