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Since the tulpas came full circle this episode (Diane, a potential new Dougie in production, ...Richard, too??), is Sarah Palmer a tulpa, too? Or something else entirely? And Laura was sucked out of the Lodge in a similar fashion as Diane was sucked back in. How does it all fit together?
Since the tulpas came full circle this episode (Diane, a potential new Dougie in production, ...Richard, too??), is Sarah Palmer a tulpa, too? Or something else entirely? And Laura was sucked out of the Lodge in a similar fashion as Diane was sucked back in. How does it all fit together?
Good questions. Although I can't answer them, the fact that Richard just evaporated after being electrocuted has me wondering if the children of doppelgängers are partial lodge entities? Maybe half exist because of being born to a human mother? Richard turned out bad, but I wonder if it had anything to do with Audrey being in a bad state of mind at time of conception due to a coma or head injury (vs Sonny Jim and possibly Linda being conceived when their mothers initially felt love?)
I think Sarah is a, not necessarily (T)he, moth-frog girl, so she's something else entirely. She'll probably need some kind of exorcism (for lack of a better word) in the end.
As for how it all ties together, your guess is as good as mine. I do think, however, that Diane's (tulpa) instantaneous transportation to the Red Room is tulpa death related and unrelated with what happened to Laura.
Since the tulpas came full circle this episode (Diane, a potential new Dougie in production, ...Richard, too??), is Sarah Palmer a tulpa, too? Or something else entirely? And Laura was sucked out of the Lodge in a similar fashion as Diane was sucked back in. How does it all fit together?
Good questions. Although I can't answer them, the fact that Richard just evaporated after being electrocuted has me wondering if the children of doppelgängers are partial lodge entities? Maybe half exist because of being born to a human mother? Richard turned out bad, but I wonder if it had anything to do with Audrey being in a bad state of mind at time of conception due to a coma or head injury (vs Sonny Jim and possibly Linda being conceived when their mothers initially felt love?)
It's all about the genes and doppel-genes.
Seriously though, interesting questions about half human/doppel folks. One would think that they potentially posses an inherent kind of "gifted or damned" syndrome and can see or do things that "normal" humans cannot. Richard didn't necessarily show this attribute, but also didn't appear to be a self-reflective person/doppel hybrid. I think it likely that his fate was similar to Diane's and he was transported directly to the Red Room upon death by electric knoll.
Since the tulpas came full circle this episode (Diane, a potential new Dougie in production, ...Richard, too??), is Sarah Palmer a tulpa, too? Or something else entirely? And Laura was sucked out of the Lodge in a similar fashion as Diane was sucked back in. How does it all fit together?
Good questions. Although I can't answer them, the fact that Richard just evaporated after being electrocuted has me wondering if the children of doppelgängers are partial lodge entities? Maybe half exist because of being born to a human mother? Richard turned out bad, but I wonder if it had anything to do with Audrey being in a bad state of mind at time of conception due to a coma or head injury (vs Sonny Jim and possibly Linda being conceived when their mothers initially felt love?)
It's all about the genes and doppel-genes.
Seriously though, interesting questions about half human/doppel folks. One would think that they potentially posses an inherent kind of "gifted or damned" syndrome and can see or do things that "normal" humans cannot. Richard didn't necessarily show this attribute, but also didn't appear to be a self-reflective person/doppel hybrid. I think it likely that his fate was similar to Diane's and he was transported directly to the Red Room upon death by electric knoll.
It's interesting because it took Ray so long to be transported, and Diane fleewwww. Maybe tulpas get the express lane. I can't remember how long it took Dougie to be transported.
Since the tulpas came full circle this episode (Diane, a potential new Dougie in production, ...Richard, too??), is Sarah Palmer a tulpa, too? Or something else entirely? And Laura was sucked out of the Lodge in a similar fashion as Diane was sucked back in. How does it all fit together?
Good questions. Although I can't answer them, the fact that Richard just evaporated after being electrocuted has me wondering if the children of doppelgängers are partial lodge entities? Maybe half exist because of being born to a human mother? Richard turned out bad, but I wonder if it had anything to do with Audrey being in a bad state of mind at time of conception due to a coma or head injury (vs Sonny Jim and possibly Linda being conceived when their mothers initially felt love?)
It's all about the genes and doppel-genes.
Seriously though, interesting questions about half human/doppel folks. One would think that they potentially posses an inherent kind of "gifted or damned" syndrome and can see or do things that "normal" humans cannot. Richard didn't necessarily show this attribute, but also didn't appear to be a self-reflective person/doppel hybrid. I think it likely that his fate was similar to Diane's and he was transported directly to the Red Room upon death by electric knoll.
There is a video posted in another thread about being scared when BOB smiles... It says something about only the gifted being able to see BOB. Makes me ponder two things:
1) Lucy being pure of heart being able to see the BOB (that preview from the white lodge where she is shown something)
2) Candie being able to see BOB
I think Sarah Palmer is still living in purgatory - as she has been for however many years. She missed out on her daughter's anguish & husbands betrayal as she was doped up. No-one knows what state she's in (whether she actually chewed the head off the trucker) or whether she hopes she can intervene a bit more now...
Maybe Sarah is just an ordinary mortal suffering her losses - but dreaming that she gets vengeance sometimes?
Since the tulpas came full circle this episode (Diane, a potential new Dougie in production, ...Richard, too??), is Sarah Palmer a tulpa, too? Or something else entirely? And Laura was sucked out of the Lodge in a similar fashion as Diane was sucked back in. How does it all fit together?
Good questions. Although I can't answer them, the fact that Richard just evaporated after being electrocuted has me wondering if the children of doppelgängers are partial lodge entities? Maybe half exist because of being born to a human mother? Richard turned out bad, but I wonder if it had anything to do with Audrey being in a bad state of mind at time of conception due to a coma or head injury (vs Sonny Jim and possibly Linda being conceived when their mothers initially felt love?)
It's all about the genes and doppel-genes.
Seriously though, interesting questions about half human/doppel folks. One would think that they potentially posses an inherent kind of "gifted or damned" syndrome and can see or do things that "normal" humans cannot. Richard didn't necessarily show this attribute, but also didn't appear to be a self-reflective person/doppel hybrid. I think it likely that his fate was similar to Diane's and he was transported directly to the Red Room upon death by electric knoll.
There is a video posted in another thread about being scared when BOB smiles... It says something about only the gifted being able to see BOB. Makes me ponder two things:
1) Lucy being pure of heart being able to see the BOB (that preview from the white lodge where she is shown something)
2) Candie being able to see BOB
Interesting. I gather you're thinking that either Lucy or Candie will see Bob in Mr C and help the folks of Twin Peaks determine that he's a doppelgänger and not their beloved Special Agent?
There is a video posted in another thread about being scared when BOB smiles... It says something about only the gifted being able to see BOB. Makes me ponder two things:
1) Lucy being pure of heart being able to see the BOB (that preview from the white lodge where she is shown something)
2) Candie being able to see BOB
Interesting. I gather you're thinking that either Lucy or Candie will see Bob in Mr C and help the folks of Twin Peaks determine that he's a doppelgänger and not their beloved Special Agent?
That's what I'm thinking, coupled with "the one under the moon on blue pine mountain".
I think Sarah Palmer is still living in purgatory - as she has been for however many years. She missed out on her daughter's anguish & husbands betrayal as she was doped up. No-one knows what state she's in (whether she actually chewed the head off the trucker) or whether she hopes she can intervene a bit more now...
Maybe Sarah is just an ordinary mortal suffering her losses - but dreaming that she gets vengeance sometimes?
Killing Truck You was a daydream or envisioned in her head? That could very well be. How do you interpret her face transposed onto Jumping Man's? Figurative?
Edit: or she possibly dreamed the entire trip to the bar. Got it after a reread.
I think Sarah Palmer is still living in purgatory - as she has been for however many years. She missed out on her daughter's anguish & husbands betrayal as she was doped up. No-one knows what state she's in (whether she actually chewed the head off the trucker) or whether she hopes she can intervene a bit more now...
Maybe Sarah is just an ordinary mortal suffering her losses - but dreaming that she gets vengeance sometimes?Killing Truck You was a daydream or envisioned in her head? That could very well be. How do you interpret her face transposed onto Jumping Man's? Figurative?
Edit: or she possibly dreamed the entire trip to the bar. Got it after a reread.
I'm really not sure - I just think she could almost be a red herring - a tragic consequence from series 2. She's probably living in a semi-delusional world wanting to kill everybody. I think I would be.
I think Sarah Palmer is still living in purgatory - as she has been for however many years. She missed out on her daughter's anguish & husbands betrayal as she was doped up. No-one knows what state she's in (whether she actually chewed the head off the trucker) or whether she hopes she can intervene a bit more now...
Maybe Sarah is just an ordinary mortal suffering her losses - but dreaming that she gets vengeance sometimes?Killing Truck You was a daydream or envisioned in her head? That could very well be. How do you interpret her face transposed onto Jumping Man's? Figurative?
Edit: or she possibly dreamed the entire trip to the bar. Got it after a reread.
I'm really not sure - I just think she could almost be a red herring - a tragic consequence from series 2. She's probably living in a semi-delusional world wanting to kill everybody. I think I would be.
Yeah, how she's maintained this long without killing herself or someone else or ended up in an institution is beyond my comprehension. I do like the very real purgatory vibe that you're getting. She's such a complex character. My hope is that her complexity deepens and isn't cheapened by whatever befalls her next week (I have faith).
I'm not sure if Sarah is ... but I'm beginning to think that Laura might have a tulpa
It seems like the tulpas in this are made from DNA plus a "seed." I'm assuming dopplegangers are the dark halves that exist in the black lodge. I'm still wondering if because Sarah was able to remove her face in the same way Laura did if she isn't a doppleganger? I don't even know how that would happen though, she'd have to go to the lodge? I don't think anyone would make a tulpa Sarah.
Tulpas would seem to be a very easy "way out" from having to explain and deal with Sarah and Laura.
A tulpa is evidently going give us a dreamy end to the Janey-E / Sonny Jim storyline. Any more easy tulpa resolutions will be hard for me to swallow.
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