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So how would the "contract" that Charlie and Audrey mentioned come in to play?
At the Roadhouse as the brawl erupts, Audrey runs straight to Charlie at the bar, looks him in the face (which also displays panic) and says Get me out of here! She immediately wakes up into her brightly lit white world looking directly into a mirror at her own face (much less heavily made up.) To me, this suggests that Charlie is an aspect of her own personality, not the other way around. It's about Audrey, not Charlie.
I think Charlie is a psychiatrist with lots of paperwork to do. But that doesn't mean how we're seeing him is how he really is.
You do have a point about the "end your story" line, though. However, it might not be meant literally.
I don't like the theory either, but it does at this stage seem plausible, for what that's worth with TP.
It would answer the question of who the dreamer is too...
ETA: apologies to 100monkies, I got reply happy and read your comment afterwards, ?
I did this really annoying smug look when Audrey walked into the roadhouse with Charlie. A kind of "heh, didn't think she was in a coma or dream".
Then she did that dance and the final scene happened, and my smugness was quickly wiped off me face.
I have no idea what's going on with Audrey. I kind of hope it's something weird that nobody has thought up.
I have no idea what's going on with Audrey. I kind of hope it's something weird that nobody has thought up.
That couldn't happen. could it? :-/
I have no idea what's going on with Audrey. I kind of hope it's something weird that nobody has thought up.
That couldn't happen. could it? :-/
I can count on more than two hands the number of times it has on this forum 😉
I did this really annoying smug look when Audrey walked into the roadhouse with Charlie. A kind of "heh, didn't think she was in a coma or dream".
Then she did that dance and the final scene happened, and my smugness was quickly wiped off me face.
I have no idea what's going on with Audrey. I kind of hope it's something weird that nobody has thought up.
I have truly taken the stance this week that we don't yet know enough about Audrey to determine what is going on. In fact, it makes me very, very tired to even try. I have chosen to simply ride the wave on this one.
I still want to know how the "contract" would fit into the "author" theory.
So how would the "contract" that Charlie and Audrey mentioned come in to play?
I was hoping you'd ask that...
If, as I suggest, Laura is a character who took on a life of her own, that could be a referral to a contract Charlie has as a writer, to create something featuring Audrey. Even their marriage could be a similar concept, as in, Charlie is wedded to the idea of featuring the character in a story.
I know it's a stretch, I know I said I didn't much like the idea anyhow but it makes a warped kind of sense.
Even when Audrey appears in a white place, devoid of her makeup and costume, that could just be her as a concept without any detail or stage, props or the other character stuff. In fact, if you read writer's critiques, it's a common theme how the best stories feature largely undescribed characters on an empty stage. Chekhov's Gun is the best known example.
Which leads on to a wider, meta commentary on storytelling, since it's been said that Twin Peaks is full of Red Herrings, MacGuffins and so on. Why not a walking Chekhov's Gun, such as Audrey?
Gawd I hope you're wrong.
It's a great theory, but just the possible thought of it makes me queasy.
If you are correct, every member on this forum owes you a pint.
I hope I'm wrong but...
I have a feeling it's not too far from the reality, or what passes for reality in the show.
All that beer sounds good, though. ?
Hear me out. Standard disclaimer, I don't make any claims to be right about the idea and I'm not sure I even like it, but if I am on the money, I'll crow about it for the rest of me life.You won't like it but at least consider this:
We don't know what Charlie does for a living, nor do we really know where Audrey is.
Charlie's desk is strewn with stuff, there are books around the place, he's tired and complains of deadlines. What kind of person would fit into that broad description? A writer.
Audrey is one of the characters who has gotten out of hand and taken on a life outside the story. Iain M Banks once told me he thought it was a pretentious thing for writers to say until it happened to him. How he dealt with it was to put the characters (two of 'em in this case) into increasingly difficult situations until they were killed off.
It's worth remembering that in Twin Peaks - this series, at least - there is no such thing as a throwaway line. "Do I have to end your story?" A dead giveaway but either dismissed or interpreted in some obscure fashion.
The fight scene at the Roadhouse, echoing the one previously. Writer's retcon?
Where does it all fit into the show as a whole?
Either a St Elsewhere ending, with Charlie being a meta version of Frost and Lynch. Oh please no.
Or...
Charlie is the next stage of being, above the Fireman. He's the real mover and shaker, the one who creates everything and by and large, leaves them to it. Took a dislike to Audrey once she went off script and became someone with a social conscience, so decided to teach her a lesson. Plays around with all the people she knows, the people she loves and even provides the ultimate horrible twist of having an evil duplicate of the man she loved rape her.
So, don't say you weren't warned. 😉
I have the beginnings of a short story going at the moment. Ludmilla (Milly) comes to visit Joseph. They were both in a train crash. She lost her husband Fredreich and daughter Gretchen (yes I was influenced) and has some ongoing injuries. I haven't written whether he has. I think through dialogue between them I'm fishing to see what emerges. Writing dialogue seems to come easy to me, and it's been said by other people in writing groups. I have no sense of whether they will become lovers, or she'll feel compelled to stick him with a bread knife. In that sense the characters do take on a life of their own.
Given the above, your theory is a fine one. It also reminded me of how it played out for Nicky Grace in Inland Empire.
How your theory plays out beyond Audrey remains to be seen.
Looking forward and not looking forward to see how your crowing will manifest. 🙂
Love your work...
🙂
«Who is the dreamer?». I immediately thought David Lynch was the dreamer and we live inside his dream (for the duration of the Twin Peaks show at least). More I think about it, more it makes sense.