Has everyone discussed the thought that the Janey-E ring was part of Mr. C's scheme to frame "Dougie Jones" for the murder of Briggs and Davenport? The following would require that Mr. C never expected to be caught up in Yankton:
I think when Mr C (or someone he hired) killed Maj Briggs, the ring was put in his stomach to trigger Diane if she were ever called in by the FBI.
Mr C did leave behind Cooper prints, with one backwards. So maybe he wanted the FBI called in and planned them to call on Diane. If ANY of the hitmen sent killed Cooper, and then Diane was triggered by the ring, she would've directed the FBI to The Dougie tulpa. They could mistake him for criminal Cooper, like maybe the billionaire went into "hiding" as Douglas Jones. But he'd be dead now, Briggs' murder suspect already murdered by hitmen. And it would make sense to find a billionaire criminal in hiding already hit by hitmen. The FBI's Cooper/Briggs case might be closed with that. ????
I posted that in another thread, but now realize it conflicts with my theory that Mr. C killed The Warden's dog (who I think is Mr Strawberry) and spread dog legs around in preparation for getting caught and escaping..... Or Mr. C just had plans for breaking out of ANY fed, state, or local penitentiary. Or Lynch/Frost gave us a variety of mischevious schemes carried out by Mr C that logically conflict each other.
I don't think Mr. C. "Left behind" any prints. They got them when he was booked.
I don't think Mr. C. "Left behind" any prints. They got them when he was booked.
I thought the coroner had gotten Cooper's prints off Major Briggs's body. (I think I remember being surprised that finger prints could be left on flesh.) But I could be totally totally misremembering that. I haven't rewatched all the episodes.
EDIT: I guess I'm just remembering them getting Briggs's fingerprints and getting it mixed up--and the only thing that got the FBI pointed toward Cooper was his capture in Yankton.
OK. My theory is dead.
Mr. C intentionally got himself booked in Yankton, correct?
Mr. C intentionally got himself booked in Yankton, correct?
Correct. My half-baked theory is toast. That ring remains a mystery.
Mr. C intentionally got himself booked in Yankton, correct?
No he didn't. He crashed his car, puked up a messed-up garmonbozia and passed out. He was incarcerated because he got picked up by the police after that.
Mr. C intentionally got himself booked in Yankton, correct?
No he didn't. He crashed his car, puked up a messed-up garmonbozia and passed out. He was incarcerated because he got picked up by the police after that.
He was prepared for Yankton though if he got caught. He looked up prison plans in the room with Darya, he had dirt on the warden, and methinks the dog leg in his trunk was that of Mr Strawberry, who I think was the warden's dog; he had that leg to intimidate the warden.
Mr. C might have foreseen and prepped for a variety of circumstances.
Mr. C intentionally got himself booked in Yankton, correct?
No he didn't. He crashed his car, puked up a messed-up garmonbozia and passed out. He was incarcerated because he got picked up by the police after that.
He was prepared for Yankton though if he got caught. He looked up prison plans in the room with Darya, he had dirt on the warden, and methinks the dog leg in his trunk was that of Mr Strawberry, who I think was the warden's dog; he had that leg to intimidate the warden.
Mr. C might have foreseen and prepped for a variety of circumstances.
I'm not sure about that (Mr Strawberry being the dog). You wouldn't let a dangerous criminal out of prison just for killing your dog. In fact, you'd keep them locked up.
I think Mr Strawberry was a personal thing to the warden. Something he didn't want the world to know.
Mr. C intentionally got himself booked in Yankton, correct?
No he didn't. He crashed his car, puked up a messed-up garmonbozia and passed out. He was incarcerated because he got picked up by the police after that.
He was prepared for Yankton though if he got caught. He looked up prison plans in the room with Darya, he had dirt on the warden, and methinks the dog leg in his trunk was that of Mr Strawberry, who I think was the warden's dog; he had that leg to intimidate the warden.
Mr. C might have foreseen and prepped for a variety of circumstances.
I'm not sure about that (Mr Strawberry being the dog). You wouldn't let a dangerous criminal out of prison just for killing your dog. In fact, you'd keep them locked up.
I think Mr Strawberry was a personal thing to the warden. Something he didn't want the world to know.
I agree. The dog leg could have been part of Bad Cop's food supply for all we know.
I think we went to the prison to get Ray. He may not have known that his car would go out of control as the lodge tried to pull him in. He had a plan to avoid returning to the lodge, but we have never been told just what that plan entailed. And it looked like the plan was a few seconds from failing, with the way he nervously looked at the cigarette lighter while holding the vomit in.
But he must have had something to do with getting that ring into Briggs body. I don't recall Dougie missing the ring at Jade's or wondering where the green one came from. Bad Coop may have designed the Janey-E ring himself.
With respect to the dog leg, Mr C indicates that the other three legs are in three separate locations where there is evidence tying the warden to the mysterious Mr Strawberry (who is a skeleton in the warden's closet).
With respect to the ring, I believe Major Briggs swallowed it to leave a clue. The big question is how the major got the ring.
Mr. C intentionally got himself booked in Yankton, correct?
No he didn't. He crashed his car, puked up a messed-up garmonbozia and passed out. He was incarcerated because he got picked up by the police after that.
He was prepared for Yankton though if he got caught. He looked up prison plans in the room with Darya, he had dirt on the warden, and methinks the dog leg in his trunk was that of Mr Strawberry, who I think was the warden's dog; he had that leg to intimidate the warden.
Mr. C might have foreseen and prepped for a variety of circumstances.
I'm not sure about that (Mr Strawberry being the dog). You wouldn't let a dangerous criminal out of prison just for killing your dog. In fact, you'd keep them locked up.
I think Mr Strawberry was a personal thing to the warden. Something he didn't want the world to know.
I agree. The dog leg could have been part of Bad Cop's food supply for all we know.
I think we went to the prison to get Ray. He may not have known that his car would go out of control as the lodge tried to pull him in. He had a plan to avoid returning to the lodge, but we have never been told just what that plan entailed. And it looked like the plan was a few seconds from failing, with the way he nervously looked at the cigarette lighter while holding the vomit in.
But he must have had something to do with getting that ring into Briggs body. I don't recall Dougie missing the ring at Jade's or wondering where the green one came from. Bad Coop may have designed the Janey-E ring himself.
I thought it was clear that he intentionally went to Yankton prison to get to Ray. There's also the possibility that being detained in a prison cell was part of his plan to thwart the lodge from pulling him back in. There's no electrical outlet in your prison cell, right. Although he was a little too late on his game if that were his plan and Mr. C. would not mess around and miss the boat on this so I'm quashing my own theory.
Hard to say if the way he got detained was the way he intended but I feel yrev confident that he meant to go to prison.
I do hope we find out more about what his plan was, it had to be more in depth than just driving recklessly and choking on his own garmonboziavomit. I think this will not be covered in the remaining episodes but hopefully the final dossier?
Well all the above is true. But he could have blackmailed the warden without getting arrested and put in jail. Could have got Ray out without getting himself put into a cell. I don't think he planned a situation so that Cole and Diane would show up there. It seems a lot happened where he played things by ear--like with Richard, who he never expected to discover. He didn't know Richard would get torched on that rock, although he suspected he might not find what he wanted there. The man Isn't clairvoyant and is figuring out things as he goes. Hopefully he will screw up royally Sunday nite.
He, like the original Dale Cooper, is both brilliant and intuitive. He can plan and he can improvise.
As others have speculated, I too believe that Briggs swallowed the ring himself, to leave a clue for the authorities when he transcended the use of his body.
Well all the above is true. But he could have blackmailed the warden without getting arrested and put in jail. Could have got Ray out without getting himself put into a cell. I don't think he planned a situation so that Cole and Diane would show up there. It seems a lot happened where he played things by ear--like with Richard, who he never expected to discover. He didn't know Richard would get torched on that rock, although he suspected he might not find what he wanted there. The man Isn't clairvoyant and is figuring out things as he goes. Hopefully he will screw up royally Sunday nite.
Is there a thread for speculation on if Richard hadn't followed him from the farm to the convenience store? Would Mr. C have tested the stone on his own? Or would he have lured Uncle Jerry into the trap first? And how, for that matter, was Jerry able to witness his nephew being fried from the wrong end of the binoculars which make things look further away? Through the magic of edible medical marijuana?
Anyways, Pretty convenient that his son showed up just in time to be sacrificed. I wonder what he would have done without him?
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