Around the dinner table, the conversation was lively. Thank you but for now, the forum has been archived.
1. Where are they? That didn't look like TP, but Jerry was there.
2. Why did Richard implode, and why took was he carrying?
3. Why does Mr. C want the coordinates if he cannot access the spot without imploding?
4. What happened to Richard? He was not transported to the Lodge.
5. Was Mr. C's DNA required to initiate the implosion? Or could a kid climbing that rock get the same effect?
6. Why is this all happening 25y later?
7. Am I missing something huge?
I had the feeling that even though Mr. C made it seem he was checking out the location of the two matching coordinates, he was checking out the one that didn't match. He suspected a trap. My feeling was that the trap coordinates were sent by Diane, hoping to destroy Mr. C.
But who knows?
Definitely looks like a trap that, presumably, lodge entities (Mike, Woodsmen, etc.) set for Mr. C.
He mentioned getting the coordinates from 3 different sources, which I think are:
- Ray
- Diane
- Jeffries
Which one was different than the others? I feel like Diane and Jeffries both led him to here. We saw Diane's text and we saw teapot Jeffries give out Twin Peaks looking coordinates (and this has to be close to TP, with Jerry Horne running around stoned to the bejesus).
So were Ray's coordinates the real ones? Or at least the outlier ones?
Definitely looks like a trap that, presumably, lodge entities (Mike, Woodsmen, etc.) set for Mr. C.
He mentioned getting the coordinates from 3 different sources, which I think are:
- Ray
- Diane
- Jeffries
Which one was different than the others? I feel like Diane and Jeffries both led him to here. We saw Diane's text and we saw teapot Jeffries give out Twin Peaks looking coordinates (and this has to be close to TP, with Jerry Horne running around stoned to the bejesus).
So were Ray's coordinates the real ones? Or at least the outlier ones?
I thought that Diane would have sent him the erroneous numbers in order to redeem herself, but that wasn't Diane, so that went out the window. Probably the Jeffries-ish teapot (which may or may not be manipulated by Mike or Giant). But where did Richard go? Not to the Lodge.
oh yeah, Evil Coop definitely was thinking that the coordinates was a trap to get him back to the Black Lodge. So, he used Richard as a guinea pig. What a Dad!
Definitely looks like a trap that, presumably, lodge entities (Mike, Woodsmen, etc.) set for Mr. C.
He mentioned getting the coordinates from 3 different sources, which I think are:
- Ray
- Diane
- Jeffries
Which one was different than the others? I feel like Diane and Jeffries both led him to here. We saw Diane's text and we saw teapot Jeffries give out Twin Peaks looking coordinates (and this has to be close to TP, with Jerry Horne running around stoned to the bejesus).
So were Ray's coordinates the real ones? Or at least the outlier ones?
I thought the coordinates he got from Jeffries were more specifically supposed to lead him to Judy. I didn"t think Mr C was asking Jeffries for coordinates that would lead him to this other thing he has been "wanting."
Very confusing.
Yes, extremely confusing. I think the only coordinates Mr. C got that we know about are the ones from Ray. I thought there was an earlier scene where Diane sent them, but I guess I imagined that. And Jeffries supposedly gave him coordinates to Judy's location.
So who sent the other two that Mr. C mentioned?
I thought the coordinates he got from Jeffries were more specifically supposed to lead him to Judy. I didn"t think Mr C was asking Jeffries for coordinates that would lead him to this other thing he has been "wanting."
Very confusing.
I took this as the mechanical Jeffries was tricking & giving Evil Coop the coordinates to the rock thinking that Mr C would think that they were going to lead him to Judy. But would actually blast him back to the Black Lodge.
I thought the coordinates he got from Jeffries were more specifically supposed to lead him to Judy. I didn"t think Mr C was asking Jeffries for coordinates that would lead him to this other thing he has been "wanting."
Very confusing.
I took this as the mechanical Jeffries was tricking & giving Evil Coop the coordinates to the rock thinking that Mr C would think that they were going to lead him to Judy. But would actually blast him back to the Black Lodge.
But we don't see Richard go to the Lodge, and I don't know why that is. I don't think the rock was in TP, but why was Jerry there if not?
I thought the coordinates he got from Jeffries were more specifically supposed to lead him to Judy. I didn"t think Mr C was asking Jeffries for coordinates that would lead him to this other thing he has been "wanting."
Very confusing.
I took this as the mechanical Jeffries was tricking & giving Evil Coop the coordinates to the rock thinking that Mr C would think that they were going to lead him to Judy. But would actually blast him back to the Black Lodge.
But we don't see Richard go to the Lodge, and I don't know why that is. I don't think the rock was in TP, but why was Jerry there if not?
The big truck Richard and Doppel Coop rolled up in had Idaho plates, so it seems Jerry has wandered across the border a wee bit. Northern Idaho doesn't look like the high desert scene where Richard is fried but must be some creative license there...
I thought the coordinates he got from Jeffries were more specifically supposed to lead him to Judy. I didn"t think Mr C was asking Jeffries for coordinates that would lead him to this other thing he has been "wanting."
Very confusing.
I took this as the mechanical Jeffries was tricking & giving Evil Coop the coordinates to the rock thinking that Mr C would think that they were going to lead him to Judy. But would actually blast him back to the Black Lodge.
But we don't see Richard go to the Lodge, and I don't know why that is. I don't think the rock was in TP, but why was Jerry there if not?
The big truck Richard and Doppel Coop rolled up in had Idaho plates, so it seems Jerry has wandered across the border a wee bit. Northern Idaho doesn't look like the high desert scene where Richard is fried but must be some creative license there...
Nice catch with the plates!
It seems like the coordinates Bad Coop was trying to get from Ray, were the coordinates Briggs told Ruth and Bill to get from some government database. Briggs wanted to go there because he was in danger, wherever he was hibernating. We never really learned what place Briggs was seeking, or whether Ray actually acquired these coordinates.
My guess is he did not, and neither did Diane. I am not sure Bad Coop has the ones he wants or where he would have found them. The coordinates he wants have something to do with that Ace of Spades.
I thought the coordinates he got from Jeffries were more specifically supposed to lead him to Judy. I didn"t think Mr C was asking Jeffries for coordinates that would lead him to this other thing he has been "wanting."
Very confusing.
I took this as the mechanical Jeffries was tricking & giving Evil Coop the coordinates to the rock thinking that Mr C would think that they were going to lead him to Judy. But would actually blast him back to the Black Lodge.
But we don't see Richard go to the Lodge, and I don't know why that is. I don't think the rock was in TP, but why was Jerry there if not?
The big truck Richard and Doppel Coop rolled up in had Idaho plates, so it seems Jerry has wandered across the border a wee bit. Northern Idaho doesn't look like the high desert scene where Richard is fried but must be some creative license there...
Jerry can't have been out there more than a day. He would have died of exposure in a few days. Ben, who Jerry called when he first got lost, would have sent someone out to find him. I don't think he is far from where he started, as he lost a lot of time staring at his foot and standing still all freaked.
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