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And what are your "favourite" errors? I cannot stop thinking about Bad Coop's age. In last episode he says he'25 years older than Richard. But when agent Cooper arrived to TP he was a bit older, in his 30's I believe. Also in his files after being arrested his birthdate states 1970's, as somebody noticed. So what is the point because I am pretty sure it's not some Lynch/Frost mistake?
Bad Coop was created 25 years ago - Audrey was impregnated then - thusly, the 25 year age gap
Posted by: EpicEsquire
Bad Coop was created 25 years ago - Audrey was impregnated then - thusly, the 25 year age gap
Nope, they would be the same age in this scenario.
Error: Audrey yelling at Charlie - she messes up her lines a bit. Rusty
Non-Error: The time on Diane and Mr. C's phones.
There's no way they just thought, "yeah, set both phones to military time because that's important, but then don't worry about what time it shows, whatever is cool."
For all of us who make things from scratch be it art or construction or music or algorithms, nothing just gets to be left as is. There is no "as is" until you make it. You have to make every single decision about what a thing is because it doesn't exist yet. Also, I like the show and it's fun to revere it.
I think some of them are accidents, but Lynch did notice them, and could have fixed them but didn't. I think Lynch likes to keep things confusing and also likes it when things pan out differently than planned.
For example, when Rodney Mitchum says "People are under a lot of stress, Bradley", you can see he's trying not to smile. I don't think David Lynch told him, "Okay, after you say that line, you're going to look like you're trying not to smile". I think it was intended to be played straight, but the actor found the line funny and struggled to hide that, but Lynch decided to keep it like that.
And also, let's be honest, some of the CGI effects are a bit rubbish. When Diane's head cracks open when she's in the red room, that's like something someone would make in funny YouTube clip or a college animation project. And Part 8 proved that he can do a lot better. So I think he's kind of messing with us with some of those poor quality CGI effects.
But specifically talking about the continuity errors, some probably are deliberate and some are probably accidental. Lynch almost certainly knows they exist, and could have removed them. That doesn't necessarily mean they all have significance for the story, though.
I believe the errors do not amount to a huge plot point in the end (could be wrong!). It might be just that Lynch wants to make clear that he doesn't obsess about continuity details, that these kind of things are painted with a broader brush. What might look incorrect by some metric may be more correct from another point of view, just like a Van Gogh painting can be a bit off but more "true" in other ways.
There was a lot of speculation about the Big Ed reflection not matching his movements, whether it meant something. But it could have been that the reflection had to be added in the post production in the first place, and as it had to be done anyway they also deliberately added a discrepancy, without a specific meaning. But then again this is the show where the lighting guy ended up being one of the central characters in the mythology, so who knows... certainly the show creators know there would be viewers looking at these things by now.
As for the CGI effects being "rubbish" I'm unsure about it. One thing Lynch is very careful about is mediation. Diane's deconstruction looking a bit crap in some ways parallels the artificiality of the entity, and was more suitable here than in a show like Star Trek, where it would have been just that, a crappy effect. Having said that I admit that I kind of preferred the CGI-free Red Room scenes from the original, as it was fascinating to have a spiritual realm depicted through physical objects. Computer effects change the tone a bit, maybe the evolution of the lodge parallels these technical advances?
I think it's worth baring in mind that filming wrapped in April 2016 so there was over a year of post-production. Also Lynch's recommendation for viewing the new series was...
"I recommend getting whatever screen you’re looking at as close to your eyes as you can get"
That would suggest both a need to pay attention to details and also a confidence in the quality of the finished article.
That being said, 18 hours of TV is a lot to quality check and he is only human (isn't he?!).
And what about those shots heard at Big Ed's gas Farm?
Hasn't happened yet it seems
And what about those shots heard at Big Ed's gas Farm?
Hasn't happened yet it seems
The deputy said he was at the gas farm and heard shots. I think he was referring to the shot fired from the van into the RR. The young deputy was probably wanting some positive feedback from Bobby that he was "on the ball" in getting there right away.
It was only one shot vs. shots, but that's what I think he meant.
You might be right, I'm not sure how to understand this dialogue. This is his line:
" I was at Big Ed's Gas Farm. And you know what? I heard shots."
Posted by: EpicEsquire
Bad Coop was created 25 years ago - Audrey was impregnated then - thusly, the 25 year age gap
Nope, they would be the same age in this scenario.
IMHO they would not be the same age as Dale was about 25 when he went into the Lodge so Bad Coop was created at about 25 years of age
I personally think SOME of the "errors" are not errors at all. They may be discrepancies purposefully placed or oddities with some other or even higher meaning.
Some of the errors I do think are just errors and that yes, Lynch & Frost left them there to "mess" with us or for reasons already stated by my fellow TP comrades. 🙂
Sure they are oddities, is like in the DVD of Mulholland Drive there are 10 clues to help you understand the mistery, but in fact there were clueless clues, because it didn't make any sense, it was just a way to play with the viewer (I guess).
Throughout the season I've found some continuity errors, like the order in the Diane bracelets in ep. 16, or her cellphone time, that might suggest that what we are watching is not really happening at all inside the story. It reminds me of "El Club del Silencio", also in Mulholland Drive, when they were saying "No hay banda" (There is no band) but the music was on.
One error that I've found and that stuck in my mind for days was listening Monica Belucci saying "who is the dripper?" Here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvktGMICfcA
In part 11 in the Heartbreaking scene, it seems like one of the Mitchum Brothers calls Candie and instead of Candie he says Annie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUdI9V7BrgU&t=24s
Monica B definitely says "Dreamer". Haven't watched the other scene for a while so I can't say for sure on that one.
get ready for it....
...Phillip Jeffries is the Dripper.
Well, that spout definitely needs attention.
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