Being married to a disabled person, i would say there is no way she is disabled. Or, at least not paralyzed. When they set her down, she would fall over, and for sure wouldn't be able to to cross her legs. Also, as she crawls(if she could crawl), her legs would be flat on the ground not making contact on her knees. Based on what I'm seeing I would say there is no chance of a significant disability.
I kind of like what this person on Tumblr said about it:
"I find myself just fascinated with Ruby, the screaming girl in the Roadhouse. I feel for her. She’s just so invisible to everyone around her. Petite and unassuming, huddled into her booth. Into her prim sweater. When the pair of bikers approach her, she acts like she has to apologize for existing. For taking up what little space she occupies.
“I’m waiting for someone,” she says. She says it like her being there isn’t enough. Someone else needs to be involved to justify her presence.
And they just lift her like she’s weightless–like she’s nothing, and just deposit her on the floor. To the people around her, Ruby barely exists. Those two guys joke and laugh in the booth seconds later–they’ve forgotten she was ever there.
And Ruby can’t stand up. She’s too overburdened. Everything has been pushing her down–you can sense it’s been like this her wholelife. She tries to crawl away from the shame of it. Of being nobody. Away from those guys in the booth laughing and having fun, like everyone else but Ruby.
She’s swarmed by people. Lost in a sea of legs. She starts to cry. And still no one notices her. No one reaches down to lift her up, or asks her what’s wrong.
It’s like the dark woods–legs like tree trunks rising up unfeeling in the night. It’s the horror of Twin Peaks, played out in miniature. The callousness and cruelty of everyday people–the casual dehumanization happening invisibly around us.
“I’m waiting for someone,” Ruby said. She is. She’s waiting foranybody–anyone who can really see her. But no one comes. No one cares.
It’s a breaking point. She screams. It reminds me of Laura’s screams, in the lodge. No one really saw her, either. No one reached out to help. So there’s nothing left to do, but scream.
They’re not screams of pain, really. Or fear. Or even rage. It’s all and none of those–just an overwhelming rush of feeling. A primal rejection of the smallness and insignificance of the self. I’m here,they say. I matter. It’s the need for tenderness, twisted and pent up and forever denied."
(Copied and pasted because you have to have an account to even look at some Tumblr accounts now.)
I have enjoyed every bit of it! I like that philosophical point of view above all else and it does have sense to happen at the RoadHouse. And it may connect to any other point of view aswell.
As we compare Ruby feeling to Dougie, the feeling I may add that could be a silenced call for help. Dougie has all covered but no one seems to really care for him, truly. Aren't we all waiting for someone? Maybe not all the time, not attention, not love as a couple, but truthful relationships? With family, couple, friends and random people. Empathy.
I have probably went south with the subject, but yikes, isn't what Pantstrovich said a damn good point of view? 😀
Being married to a disabled person, i would say there is no way she is disabled. Or, at least not paralyzed. When they set her down, she would fall over, and for sure wouldn't be able to to cross her legs. Also, as she crawls(if she could crawl), her legs would be flat on the ground not making contact on her knees. Based on what I'm seeing I would say there is no chance of a significant disability.
This.
After re-watching the scene, it is so obvious that Ruby is not disabled, I'm concerned for the person who would look at her scene and think that she is disabled.
Ruby is placed on the floor of the Roadhouse. She then sits up enough to get on her hands and knees (knees being the significant part there). If someone is disabled due to the inability to use their legs (which is what we've been assuming about Linda, since it's been mentioned she needs a wheelchair), then they don't balance themselves and hold half their body weight on their knees, nor do they crawl using their hands and knees (which is what Ruby does).
Now, if Ruby had been placed on the floor and fallen over, then crawled by using her arms and hands to pull the rest of her body, then that might indicate she was disabled (in her legs), though there's still the matter of her credited name being Ruby.
The fact that a character is credited as Ruby, and crawls in the way that an able-bodied person would, seems to negate any consideration that she would be Linda, the referenced woman who needs a wheelchair.
Look, I get it, there's just three episodes left, and we've never seen Linda, who we're assuming is important because of the Fireman's message to Cooper. But... just... please, be rational here.
Being married to a disabled person, i would say there is no way she is disabled. Or, at least not paralyzed. When they set her down, she would fall over, and for sure wouldn't be able to to cross her legs. Also, as she crawls(if she could crawl), her legs would be flat on the ground not making contact on her knees. Based on what I'm seeing I would say there is no chance of a significant disability.
This.
After re-watching the scene, it is so obvious that Ruby is not disabled, I'm concerned for the person who would look at her scene and think that she is disabled.
Ruby is placed on the floor of the Roadhouse. She then sits up enough to get on her hands and knees (knees being the significant part there). If someone is disabled due to the inability to use their legs (which is what we've been assuming about Linda, since it's been mentioned she needs a wheelchair), then they don't balance themselves and hold half their body weight on their knees, nor do they crawl using their hands and knees (which is what Ruby does).
Now, if Ruby had been placed on the floor and fallen over, then crawled by using her arms and hands to pull the rest of her body, then that might indicate she was disabled (in her legs), though there's still the matter of her credited name being Ruby.
The fact that a character is credited as Ruby, and crawls in the way that an able-bodied person would, seems to negate any consideration that she would be Linda, the referenced woman who needs a wheelchair.
Look, I get it, there's just three episodes left, and we've never seen Linda, who we're assuming is important because of the Fireman's message to Cooper. But... just... please, be rational here.
ill try but cant promise.
Or, she could just be too drunk to walk. Anyhow, she looks quite young; not what I'd immediately think of when someone mentions "Disabled Veteran".
Pretty much what I was thinking. Is she a veteran of the Teletubbies war? Maybe she just looks young for her age.
However, I did wonder why she never put her feet down when the bikers lifted out of the booth and onto the floor. Her legs just kind of folded and down she went.
I don't know if she's Linda. I don't know if she a disable vet. But I do know this; she is going to need tetanus and hepatitis shots after crawling around on that floor.
My initial thought during that scene was Linda, but I'm not certain that she can't use her legs.
jesus, for how long will this torture of guessing go on.. I love Lynch but what is the point of teasing us so much...? Its not stimulating for the mind, we ve become paranoid signs and symbol hunters. Does he want all of us to end up super anxious and then sign up for transcedental meditation after the show?
She does look like she can't walk (partial or full disability doesn't make a diference). And its the only reason for a person to crawl. The scene exposes the 2 bullies' ignorance and our ignorance about disability at the same time. If this is not Linda than I am Maharishi.
Haha. I agree she appears disable but one thing I've learned while watching the Return is to crank up my scepticism to the max while remaining open to any and all possibilities. Even w/the character being named Ruby it doesn't confirm for me that she isn't Linda (because scepticism).
basically he wants us to remain undecided and unsure until the very end. A limbo (red room) state.
I think he wants us to remain unsure about everything beyond the very end. I don't think the end is going to answer everything. That's Lynch.
You know what would be a totally crazy "twist?" If Lynch DID answer everything for us and they lived happily ever after. We all assume he definitely won't. So what if he did? None of us ever saw THAT coming. 😉
It didn't occur to me that she was disabled--I figured in that place she was probably doing the bad bad drugs that people tend to do in TP and the Roadhouse in particular, possibly mixed with alcohol.
I have to admit I've not watched my second showing yet, but wasn't she using her back legs to crawl forward on the dance floor? I was pretty sure she got up in the doggy position as she started to crawl. I wouldn't expect someone handicap to do that if they planned to move around. As I said, its been a few days since I watched it.
but isnt it obvious she is disabled? Wow, i really didn't see it when i watched the first time. it only hit me when i made the connection to Linda.
If she was disabled, wouldn't we see a wheelchair or someone there to help her? It was not obvious to me at all.
but isnt it obvious she is disabled? Wow, i really didn't see it when i watched the first time. it only hit me when i made the connection to Linda.
If she was disabled, wouldn't we see a wheelchair or someone there to help her? It was not obvious to me at all.
Maybe whomever she was waiting for was parking it out back.
(no I don't really think that)
I don't know if she's Linda. I don't know if she a disable vet. But I do know this; she is going to need tetanus and hepatitis shots after crawling around on that floor.
Hi Brandy,
Hey! That floor was just swept (and swept, and swept, and swept) eight episodes ago! 😉
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Came in to clean up a spin-off conversation. Remember the donut.
Can we be so ignorant to not realize that the crawling girl is crawling because she can't walk? Linda is according to Mickey a disabled veteran who requested a wheelchair to get around more easily. Watch the crawling girl's scene again. It is so clear that she is struggling to move her legs. It's LINDA.
This is also very interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZJ__doruW4
Is she channelling Coop? Is one of the 2 realities in another dimension?
You only ever see the young women at the Bang!Bang! at the end of each episode once (excluding James' flame), as ritualistic as the music acts concluding each episode. They tell their own stories hazily and then move on. The teenage prostitutes, the tattooed girls, Ruby. All aimless and obscure. I don't think that there is much significance to them beyond that.
I sort of agree with that. The original twin peaks was Lynch and Frosts version of a soap opera and I think these little booth moments are that, small snapshots of peoples lives.
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