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Can anyone make out what it says.. city of ....? Dutchmen? Doppelgängers?
What sign?
Dutchman?
Remember the Dutchman reference?
What was that... can't remember. Dutchmans gold or something.
What sign?
Dutchman?
Remember the Dutchman reference?
What was that... can't remember. Dutchmans gold or something.
Dutchman's was where Ray told evil Coop Philip Jeffries was.... right before Coop shot him dead
the white "town sign" on the roadside while cooper driving to Convinience store.
What sign?
Dutchman?
Remember the Dutchman reference?
What was that... can't remember. Dutchmans gold or something.
Dutchman's was where Ray told evil Coop Philip Jeffries was.... right before Coop shot him dead
Beauty!
I could not read what that sign said, but at the very beginning of the episode when Nadine is walking with her golden shovel to 'Big Ed's Gas Farm', there is a sign on the same side of the road and the same shape and size as the sign that Mr. C drives past. The sign Nadine walks by is about town drinking restrictions and says something like, 'for alcohol under 21 not tolerated', so its about the rules of the town, connects to bars/roadhouses, etc., but as well we know what Jean Michel is doing there with the local students, so kind of shows the underside of whats been going on. Also, I think Mr. C had headed from Western Montana to somewhere closer to a densely forested area, maybe Washington State, given all the trees around, something like an alternate Twin Peaks, or its underside, like the motel from FWWM that Leland was led to by Teresa Banks(an alternate bosom/home woman).
With this connection, I think Mr. C was visiting the convenience store as something like an alternate Big Ed's Gas Farm, one turned into a convenience store. When Big Ed first saw Norma being seduced by Walter, he began burning his 'dreams' with that note and his reflection started jumping, as if it was changing into another reality, just as his 'bosom woman' Norma was changing from his dream-love into someone swayed by the convenience of the 'well dressed man' Walter, sacrificing the 'love that went into those pies' for cheaper pies that are more 'convenient' for the profit margin, Walter himself being a man of convenience here, comes around once in a while, brings in money, takes off again, not as many 'problems' as Big Ed. When Big Ed's dreams were about to be crushed for convenience of Norma's business partner and new boyfriend, it is as if his 'bosom woman' was opening up the door for him to enter that prostitution motel, to seek convenience himself, since his dreams were gone. When 'Big Ed's Gas Farm' turns into a 'convenience store', which also has gas pumps, this is the bosom/heart there, easy and convenient relations, like Walter the 'well dressed man' and Norma. Also the idea of bosom as the cargo hold of a ship, the very bottom where things are stored away and not brought out; and for example this can be applied to Big Ed, what was underneath his love for Norma, that they could finally get married, was that flickering reflection and the bitterness of burning that note/coordinates, his 'station' turning into a 'convenience store'.
This 'burning' resonates with the insurance fires, where people start a business, and then burn the business down in order to collect the insurance money; so that instead of making money over time through the business, the money comes in right away and quick, like buying something conveniently, quickly, instead of going shopping at the grocery. When Dougie was marking the insurance forms, exposing the arson frauds, he marked the forms with stairs going up from one name, leading all the way down to the bottom of the page where another name was. This is a representation of what Mr. C was doing at the convenience store: first he goes above the convenience store, as if vanishing, that the search for convenience or the running of a convenience store as the place to meet made him change; and then Mr. C finds himself as the bottom led by more woodsmen(something like going from one name on the form to another, with paid cops helping to lead you out of the bottom/trouble), in some kind of basement or cargo hold where he has to climb back up again, then arriving at the motel and a new bosom woman to let him in. So 'who built this heart'? Like Big Ed's changing reflection, Cooper in that situation after his dreams about Twin Peaks, Laura, and Annie were shattered, became a joke so that he would laugh "Annie, Annie, Annie, hahhaha", how stupid was he, now he knows its all about convenience(like he will teach Richard now), then become Mr. C, then would have to climb back up from the bottom and where would he be then, at that motel looking for convenience. Also, at the bottom, Mr. C is being led through a deep forrest, you can see it on the sides, same deep forest Steven was caught in, and he also wanted to go 'up', but used a bullet(or at least seemed to) instead of the stairs. Finally the position of the bosom womans house reminds of the 119 womans house across from Jade's 'place of work', something like Dougie's alternate 'bosom'/family if he live the 'viva las vegas' life of convenience and cheap amusement and gave up with Janey E....., 119 and the kid were always watching for his car and waiting for him to come back, then they heard tragic music after it exploded and he was gone for good....
I looked and looked and rewound and zoomed in. Couldn't make it out.
I killed my eyes with zoom and Photoshop with a still of this sign.
Maybe :
"Entering
City of
??????"
But the sign is right in the middle of the screen for few seconds. Not a coincidence.
It's not a "real" sign, it was put here by the props guy.
I could not read what that sign said, but at the very beginning of the episode when Nadine is walking with her golden shovel to 'Big Ed's Gas Farm', there is a sign on the same side of the road and the same shape and size as the sign that Mr. C drives past. The sign Nadine walks by is about town drinking restrictions and says something like, 'for alcohol under 21 not tolerated', so its about the rules of the town, connects to bars/roadhouses, etc., but as well we know what Jean Michel is doing there with the local students, so kind of shows the underside of whats been going on.
This yellow sign exists in "real Twin Peaks", in North Bend, few yards from the Big Ed's Gas Farm filming location :
https://goo.gl/maps/ba9K51vvtU52
The sign reads:
"Entering City of Snoqualmie."
Yes, really.
I think I need to go there someday.
I think I need to go there someday.
Don't go near any old convenience stores.
Anachronism: Although establishments we now call convenience stores have been in the US since 1928, the actual term "convenience store" wasn't coined until the late 50s/early 60s. The store wouldn't have been labeled as such in 1945 (Trinity) or 1956 (frog-moth).
Anachronism: Although establishments we now call convenience stores have been in the US since 1928, the actual term "convenience store" wasn't coined until the late 50s/early 60s. The store wouldn't have been labeled as such in 1945 (Trinity) or 1956 (frog-moth).
Is it future or is it past?
Anachronism: Although establishments we now call convenience stores have been in the US since 1928, the actual term "convenience store" wasn't coined until the late 50s/early 60s. The store wouldn't have been labeled as such in 1945 (Trinity) or 1956 (frog-moth).
Are you familiar with Doctor Who? He has a time machine, disguised as a 1950s style Police Box. It generally gets ignored by people because it generates a field which tells people to forget about it. The upshot is, even if it is seen by someone and they think "Hold on, we haven't even invented these things yet" or, "I haven't seen one of those for years", they forget.
Besides which, who is to say someone didn't unilaterally decide to call their own place "Convenience Store"? The name came from somewhere, after all.
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