My guess is he wants to stay out here, and to keep on doing his thing. Maybe he wants to be free of the lodges entirely and run the whole show.
It's taken him 25 years to get things in place to ensure it. In between doing other stuff like rape, murder, generally causing misery and stuff.
Yep. My thoughts have continuously hovered around this as for what motivates Mr C.
As regards the last ep. of original TP, David Lynch said it was not Cooper possessed.
Cooper was on vacation from his Special Agent work, deciding to get away from it all in Washington state. He wakes up in a motel, realizing "it was all a dream" from original series through new one, because David Lynch is known for his simple cliche stories ( sarcasm for the impaired ).
Am I crazy or does this image from Hawk's map/Briggs's note look like one eye open and one eye closed?
I also theorize that the "one to go" for Hutch and Chantal is Anthony - not Dougie - Anthony is going to testify against everyone and may know who Evil Coop is?
I also theorize that the "one to go" for Hutch and Chantal is Anthony - not Dougie - Anthony is going to testify against everyone and may know who Evil Coop is?
A good possibility. There's a very good chance that Cooper is not their target if Mr. C knows/believes he is the only person who can kill Coop.
- "Judy" will wind up being the nickname for the experiment/mother thing that is inside Sarah Palmer. The coordinates teapot Jeffries showed DoppleCoop seem to suggest Twin Peaks as the location. Who is there that (both Cooper and Bob) have already met, and that DoppleCoop wants (but, like, totally doesn't need)? Sarah. It will go to her house. Which, sort of oddly, is a Dutch colonial in style.
Interesting theory. I feel like it would make sense for Judy to be The Experiment. Judy might simply be a code name for a particular something that they (Gordon Coles' team) have been investigating. Although... when Jeffries is in Buenos Aires, he asks the desk clerk about a "Ms. Judy". Confusing.
I like Judy as a military code name for the Experiment. That would make a connection to Garland Briggs possible too.
I saw something online about Judy as a code name for something in military history, an Japanese aircraft carrier:
https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=481
It didn't seem too relevant but I thought it was interesting that Judy stood for this in real life. But wait. Oh hey, the Experiment kind of looks like an aircraft carrier, doesn't it? And it dumped those flying bugfrogs. Or their eggs anyway.
"I've been with Dale, and Laura. The good Dale is in the lodge, and he can't leave. Write it in your diary."
Cooper's doppelgänger escaped the black lodge, not Cooper.
MMMMaybe. Then what is DougieCoop?
Annie is no longer in the Black Lodge, but when she was there, Dale couldn't leave (good Dale). The Return seems to begin with various forces working to get the good Dale out of the lodge, and what we're seeing is the result of that effort. And it's kind of bungled a bit due to evil Cooper's refusal to go back etc.
Time is different in different planes (as we know because Garland Briggs for instance) but that doesn't mean that it disappears altogether. Good Cooper doesn't have to stay in the Black Lodge forever.
"Dougie" is the original Cooper, when released from the lodge he replaced the third (manufactured) Coop, who was called Dougie Jones. Complications in the process of the good Dale leaving the lodge left him in a semi-conscious state, in need of a strong electrical shock. I expect that the next time we see "Dougie" he will be Dale Cooper fully returned and present, possibly a little frazzled.
"I've been with Dale, and Laura. The good Dale is in the lodge, and he can't leave. Write it in your diary."
Cooper's doppelgänger escaped the black lodge, not Cooper.
MMMMaybe. Then what is DougieCoop?
Annie is no longer in the Black Lodge, but when she was there, Dale couldn't leave (good Dale). The Return seems to begin with various forces working to get the good Dale out of the lodge, and what we're seeing is the result of that effort. And it's kind of bungled a bit due to evil Cooper's refusal to go back etc.
Time is different in different planes (as we know because Garland Briggs for instance) but that doesn't mean that it disappears altogether. Good Cooper doesn't have to stay in the Black Lodge forever.
"Dougie" is the original Cooper, when released from the lodge he replaced the third (manufactured) Coop, who was called Dougie Jones. Complications in the process of the good Dale leaving the lodge left him in a semi-conscious state, in need of a strong electrical shock. I expect that the next time we see "Dougie" he will be Dale Cooper fully returned and present, possibly a little frazzled.
Oh ok, you had implied that Dale (good Cooper) was still in the lodge. I misunderstood.
Am I crazy or does this image from Hawk's map/Briggs's note look like one eye open and one eye closed?
Nadine!
😉
Am I crazy or does this image from Hawk's map/Briggs's note look like one eye open and one eye closed?
Nadine!
😉
🙂
Looks like she's put on a little extra makeup. She just may have shoveled her way out of the shit.
A few of you are saying there were no original plans with resolving Judy--I highly doubt this is true. Originally there were going to be two films after FWWM. There was also a lot of material written up by Lynch/Frost in case there was another season. Lynch was certainly going to return to Judy, and I don't think we'd have her, or Jeffries, in the Return if this was just for a one off trippy scene featuring David Bowie.
A few of you are saying there were no original plans with resolving Judy--I highly doubt this is true. Originally there were going to be two films after FWWM. There was also a lot of material written up by Lynch/Frost in case there was another season. Lynch was certainly going to return to Judy, and I don't think we'd have her, or Jeffries, in the Return if this was just for a one off trippy scene featuring David Bowie.
I doubt Joan Chen made up all the story of Josie being Judy's sister, so they had some ideas already. But who knows now...Lynch's mind flow can't be predicted.
I think that Mr C has real Coop's body and Dougie Jones has just enough of the removed spirit piece that needs to displace whatever resides in Coop's body right now. (Also, hi. New to the forum but absolutely not new to Twin Peaks 😉 )
Forgive my memory but have we seen anyone recognize Dougie? You'd think Diane would have at least had some inkling if Dougie actually looked like Coop, even if she didn't keep in touch with her sister much. (I think the FBI agents recognized him tho) And when we first see Dougie, he's got a totally different hair cut and is wearing strange clothes. What with SO much hinging on the viewers' perception, I don't see any reason why we might just be shown Dougie as Coop (even in the hit man's photograph) while Dougie is actually just a slightly different looking person.
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