Around the dinner table, the conversation was lively. Thank you but for now, the forum has been archived.
Magic is just something our knowledge of science hasn't caught up with yet.
You know what happens when you get close to a black hole? Interesting thing called Spaghettification. Really not nice.
This only happens if the event horizon curvature is significant locally. A mass black hole can have a relatively flat event horizon. In that case, the difference in gravitation between different parts of an extended body is not noticed and you pass through the event horizon. Now you will be forced inwards as space is so curved such that motion in any direction points back to the center. Here the real spaghettification may come about.
So you may pass through the event horizon but you can not escape become part of the singularity.
So, you go into one type and you're basically FUBAR, or you go into the other type and you're basically... FUBAR.
Either way, you would rather be elsewhere.
Big bang Cosmology and the accelerating expansion of the universe hints that the observable universe may be inside a black hole. So you may already be there. I am not beholden to this theory but with the expansion of the Universe, we have an event Horizon where the expansion of the universe is happening faster than the speed of light so no information is obtained from outside of that boundary.
Because that is mathematically analogous to an event horizon does not mean it is one, but it is an interesting perspective on our lot.
Magic is just something our knowledge of science hasn't caught up with yet.
When introducing electro dynamics I take a plastic rod and rub it with an old sock. I then place it near an empty soda can. The can will move towards the rod due to an induced electric charge.
You can then write out Maxwell's equations to explain this, extending your fields through space.
It looks like sigils and scripts and yet if I follow them well I can move things at a distance without touching.
I like Crowley's definition Magick is any act of will. If you will something to be done it is Magick. Magick is active manipulation of reality.
The OP didn't provide much detail, but I have said before that I view Twin Peaks as allegorical. I think it represents a metaphysical struggle between the forces of light and darkness, as played out through human chess pieces moved into position by eternal inter-dimensional actors.
The only reason I feel this way is b/c there are psychics in my family and I have seen things as strange, beautiful, and wonderfully inexplicable as events depicted in TP in person. My own eyes. Otherwise I might not believe what I do.
I knew you were going to say that.
😉
Seriously though, I'm not discounting your statements. I have no reason to doubt your word, and having seen and experienced some bizarre events myself I'd be daft to say there's nowt other than the stuff we can eat or wear. That said, I do believe we live in a mechanistic universe, where everything is underpinned by basic scientific principles. We just don't know all of them yet. Of the stuff we have discovered so far, I think it's safe to say the speed of light is an absolute upper limit to the velocity of baryonic matter and a femtosecond is the smallest measurable fraction of time. Also, it appears the universe doesn't flow smoothly from one event to another, it ticks in quantum steps. Other than that, dunno. Maybe there's a way to cheat the speed of light by hopping out of the universe into another.
I'm happy so long as nobody mentions "Speed of thought", since it's been measured and found to be rather slow.
Speed of thought doesn't matter much in quantum physics. Inter-related particles are still related at any distance, even once separated. Adjust the spin of one and the other spins too, even miles away. That's scientific fact, but inexplicable, falling more in the realm of magic. Thoughts pop in and out of the 'ether' like electrons popping in out of existence inside an atom. A thought you have of someone jumps like a quantum bit and hits its target. Whether the target recognizes the thought depends on the strength of their 'receiver,' like radio. Psychics have strong receivers.
We already exist in paradox. Either a maker created this reality, or a maker didn't and it burst from nothing. Existing in a paradox means that things which seem impossible are in fact possible.
I see the universe as being a beautiful, mathematically complex creation. The ultimate marriage of mathematics and pure creativity. So 'god' in this concept is like an unfathomably intelligent computational being who also has the artist's heart and appreciation of beauty. The ultimate mathematician and aesthete. The paradoxical marriage of math and art, math and magic. No separation. Contradictory, but resolved.
When introducing electro dynamics I take a plastic rod and rub it with an old sock. I then place it near an empty soda can. The can will move towards the rod due to an induced electric charge.
Ahhh, takes me back to teaching 1st year science (12/13 year olds) For some reason the boys always clutched the polythene/ acetate rods in their laps & rubbed away earnestly. Which was ok till one of the girls would notice & catch my eye & start to laugh. It all went downhill from there...
We already exist in paradox. Either a maker created this reality, or a maker didn't and it burst from nothing. Existing in a paradox means that things which seem impossible are in fact possible.
I don't believe this is an either/or (though it still remains unanswered, regardless).
Even assuming (for the sake of argument) that a maker created this reality, then where the did the maker come from? Did he/she/it "burst from nothing?"
Simply saying a maker made it solves nothing.
Ah. Right.
You know what happens when you get close to a black hole? Interesting thing called Spaghettification. Really not nice.
As for infinite dimensions, well theoretically, yes. Spatial dimensions? No, or maybe. It depends. If you're talking about universes, then yes. It's not a new idea, either. Most physicists now accept the idea of a multiverse. We're part of the way along the Probability curve and there's good reason to suggest the curve itself is multi dimensional.
Finding a way through a "theoretically existing but not yet discovered white hole" would probably be a safer bet. Black holes are seriously bad news for everything.
You so had me at spaghettification.
We already exist in paradox. Either a maker created this reality, or a maker didn't and it burst from nothing. Existing in a paradox means that things which seem impossible are in fact possible.
I don't believe this is an either/or (though it still remains unanswered, regardless).
Even assuming (for the sake of argument) that a maker created this reality, then where the did the maker come from? Did he/she/it "burst from nothing?"
Simply saying a maker made it solves nothing.
If there is a maker, then the maker is also a paradox.
The riddle can't be solved. Much like Twin Peaks :->
My overall point is that our existence is paradoxical whether there is or isn't one. Once you accept that your existence is paradoxical, and in some sense magical, then the door opens for previously unimagined possibilities.
Some scientists now believe that our reality is virtual. I think that is also possible:
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160901-we-might-live-in-a-computer-program-but-it-may-not-matter
Also, perhaps "God" is the Machine:
https://www.wired.com/2002/12/holytech/
Hi Lynn,
The obvious question is:
Why didn't the girls try to clutch the rods in their laps? 😉
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We already exist in paradox. Either a maker created this reality, or a maker didn't and it burst from nothing. Existing in a paradox means that things which seem impossible are in fact possible.
I don't believe this is an either/or (though it still remains unanswered, regardless).
Even assuming (for the sake of argument) that a maker created this reality, then where the did the maker come from? Did he/she/it "burst from nothing?"
Simply saying a maker made it solves nothing.
If there is a maker, then the maker is also a paradox.
The riddle can't be solved. Much like Twin Peaks :->
My overall point is that our existence is paradoxical whether there is or isn't one. Once you accept that your existence is paradoxical, and in some sense magical, then the door opens for previously unimagined possibilities.
Some scientists now believe that our reality is virtual. I think that is also possible:
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160901-we-might-live-in-a-computer-program-but-it-may-not-matter
Also, perhaps "God" is the Machine:
https://www.wired.com/2002/12/holytech/
Ah, I follow you now. Good observations.
Not necessarily paradoxical if you can accept infinity as a concept.
One of the ideas about our universe is that it's cyclic. Big bang, expansion, contraction, big crunch. And repeat. Forever.
No paradox.
If, of course, you accept infinity as a concept.
Not necessarily paradoxical if you can accept infinity as a concept.
One of the ideas about our universe is that it's cyclic. Big bang, expansion, contraction, big crunch. And repeat. Forever.
No paradox.
If, of course, you accept infinity as a concept.
I might accept infinity as a paradoxical concept :->
Magic is just something our knowledge of science hasn't caught up with yet.
As good a description as any.
Years ago, I was spending a lot of time with a witch. A genuine one, not one of your fairground/popular press types. She told me of a friend, also a witch, who was studying Physics at Manchester, and at the same time, attempting to match strict scientific principles to his understanding of magic.
As an aside, and I don't think it's relevant to anything but something to note... She said all people who performed magic should be known as witches, female or male.
Magic, as I understand it, is much like the way Hawk described fire. The intention behind it is the critical aspect.
I don't personally dabble in magic. Or if I do, then it represents prayer (to a non-denominational 'god') for good things for others. This is easy and clean.
I know some who have dabbled in magic for personal gain or to attempt to harm others. Which inevitably acts like a boomerang. It never ends well. Revenge is only ever self-destructive.
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