Around the dinner table, the conversation was lively. Thank you but for now, the forum has been archived.
These are my takeaways/observations/questions after having watched tonight's episode.
1. I suspect Freddie is being placed (fated) in the jail cell for a reason. The one that comes to mind most obviously at this juncture is that he'll protect Naido at some point. I am glad he's there.
2. If the next time we encounter Dougie Jones he is still, well, Dougie Jones, I'll be disappointed. I think he'll either be Dale Cooper when we see him next, or well on his way. That, or he'll still be Dougie Jones, on a stretcher at the ER. Ugh.
3. While I believe the workaround devised for a lack of David Bowie is the weakest integration for a dead actor's character (as opposed to Don Davis as Major Briggs, and Frank Silva as BOB), I still think the scene was effectively unsettling. What no one seems to be talking about (yet) is that Jeffries is now an evil entity. If we are known by our associates, and Jeffries can now be found in the realm above the convenience store, and is guarded by Woodsmen, then I'd say he's gone to the dark side. Too bad.
4. Speaking of Jeffries, did anyone feel like he (whatever he is now) was being evasive in that scene? Mr. C was asking him some pretty direct questions, and Jeffries wouldn't answer them. Mr. C asked him why he sent Ray to kill him. Jeffries' response was something along the lines of how he called Ray. That didn't really answer the question. And he certainly didn't answer Mr. C's repetitive query about who Judy was. And, perhaps I missed it, but did Jeffries answer the question about if he was on the phone with Mr. C back at that motel room?
5. A question I have is: Were Duncan Todd and his underling meant to be the double-header, and so now that's done? Or was Todd just one of the people marked, and the underling just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?
6. I feel like Audrey's either in coma or in the "nuthouse" that the two women mentioned at the Roadhouse in Part 14.
7. Speaking of the Roadhouse, what was up with the special introduction of, and the crowd's reaction to, some piped-in music for ZZ Top? I've never seen so much excitement for pre-recorded music.
8. Finally, we can put to bed that odd notion some had that Freddie was a figment of James's imagination.
Yes to Freddy being 'placed'.
Yes (god, please. Pleeeeaase) to the Dougie scene equating a wake up.
Yes to Jeffries being on the dark side. I'm not sure I thought that scene was well done (everything leading up to it was fine, including spooky lady). Need to re-watch.
No to underling being the double header, as others have pointed out.
Audrey is in the nuthouse. Uncomfortable scenes. Not because they're poorly acted, quite the opposite.
Altogether, a good episode.
Why you all think Jeffries is on the dark side?
I think his 'soul' is captured there, being held behind the locked door, with a guardian at door of the room where his soul is captured in that thing. When the guardian pulled that plug it released Jeffries soul/ghost to have a talk with Mr C for a short period of time.
Just my two cents.
Why you all think Jeffries is on the dark side?
I think his 'soul' is captured there, being held behind the locked door, with a guardian at door of the room where his soul is captured in that thing. When the guardian pulled that plug it released Jeffries soul/ghost to have a talk with Mr C for a short period of time.
Just my two cents.
I like this read on the scene. I do think Jeffries got himself in some deep trouble though, whichever way you look at it.
I do not think Coop was tricked by the phone. The meeting with Jeffries was over and the telephone was Coop's way to exit. The wall between Coop and Jeffries was starting to materialise before Coop picked up the phone.
The gunshots to heads are clearly intended to have that semi-abstract look, not bad CGI. Previous instances looked exactly the same way. It resembles the style of some of Lynch's early animations.
5. I thought Chantal said '1 down, 1 to go...' so she didn't seem to count the underling.
I thought Todd's head exploded before he was shot. Not in a conspiracy-theory way, but it was an odd effect.Did it blow before the sound or before Chantal pulled the trigger? It would be realistic to blow up before the sound of the bullet.
Not from that distance. You'd have to be a lot more distant for any lag to be noticed.
These are my takeaways/observations/questions after having watched tonight's episode.
1. I suspect Freddie is being placed (fated) in the jail cell for a reason. The one that comes to mind most obviously at this juncture is that he'll protect Naido at some point. I am glad he's there.
2. If the next time we encounter Dougie Jones he is still, well, Dougie Jones, I'll be disappointed. I think he'll either be Dale Cooper when we see him next, or well on his way. That, or he'll still be Dougie Jones, on a stretcher at the ER. Ugh.
3. While I believe the workaround devised for a lack of David Bowie is the weakest integration for a dead actor's character (as opposed to Don Davis as Major Briggs, and Frank Silva as BOB), I still think the scene was effectively unsettling. What no one seems to be talking about (yet) is that Jeffries is now an evil entity. If we are known by our associates, and Jeffries can now be found in the realm above the convenience store, and is guarded by Woodsmen, then I'd say he's gone to the dark side. Too bad.
4. Speaking of Jeffries, did anyone feel like he (whatever he is now) was being evasive in that scene? Mr. C was asking him some pretty direct questions, and Jeffries wouldn't answer them. Mr. C asked him why he sent Ray to kill him. Jeffries' response was something along the lines of how he called Ray. That didn't really answer the question. And he certainly didn't answer Mr. C's repetitive query about who Judy was. And, perhaps I missed it, but did Jeffries answer the question about if he was on the phone with Mr. C back at that motel room?
5. A question I have is: Were Duncan Todd and his underling meant to be the double-header, and so now that's done? Or was Todd just one of the people marked, and the underling just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?
6. I feel like Audrey's either in coma or in the "nuthouse" that the two women mentioned at the Roadhouse in Part 14.
7. Speaking of the Roadhouse, what was up with the special introduction of, and the crowd's reaction to, some piped-in music for ZZ Top? I've never seen so much excitement for pre-recorded music.
8. Finally, we can put to bed that odd notion some had that Freddie was a figment of James's imagination.
1. Agree.
2. I think Coop will be on his way, but he'll only be fully back in the final two eps.
3. Not sure where Jeffries stands
6. The nuthouse. If Audrey's in a coma there's no way she would have known about Chuck, the guy Freddie punched.
8. I didn't even know there was such a theory.
Jeffries seemed ethereal. I got the feeling he was the steam within the teapot/perk device/possible bell thing from previous episodes.
If any of you ever played the video game Skyrim, his fate reminds me a bit of the "Augur of Dunlain", the former brilliant student of magic who, through over-zealous pursuit of his interests, somehow wound up fused with the energy of the college he lived under.
Here are my questions:
1. Can we assume that DoppleCoop would have access to all of Good Cooper's memories prior to the moment he (the dopple) split back in 1989? Thus he would inherently know of the Philadelphia conversation involving Judy?
2. During the Stephen/Gersten scene; A) what is it that they (he?) did? B) did he kill himself. C) what were the weird references to rhinos and turqoise all about?
3. Was the whole ZZ top scene just a cue to turn up the volume?
4. Good luck patching together a theory for why Sarah Palmer appeared on the Jumping man thing prior to DoppleCoop meeting Teapot Jeffries.
5. I guess Ray gave Coop the actual coordinates to the Dutchman? And the Dutchman is a convenience store that floats on electrical charged steam between dimensions. Or something.
6. The woman who unlocked the door. Who is she? Was Jeffries suggesting she was Judy?
7. No real point here. I just want to repeat the last phrase someone else has just said, like the guy in the jail cell, all while someone else makes monkey noises behind me. I need more of that in my life. Along with some Fusco detective laughing.
8. Big Ed/Nadine/Norma. Something felt like that entire scene was not happening in reality. Much like Audrey's scenes feel disconnected from reality. It was almost liked Ed was meditating there at the counter, contemplating suicide (perhaps foreshadowing Stephen's fate a few scenes later). He closes his eyes. The music distorts a bit. Next thing we know his true love is rearranging her entire professional and personal life at the snap of a finger just for him! It's too neat and tidy for this Twin Peaks; even if fans loved it. Let's not forget here that Big Ed is driving around town in a freakin' garmonbozia colored vehicle. This after we've seen his shadow glitch out ominously.
9. Even if we assume that Dougie saw Gordon Cole, started to wake up, and then decided to conduct a home electricity experiment; what was causing the electrical surge we could hear from his socket? Was something trying to come through?
10. How many cells do they have in the TP jail? Because soon we'll have the town drunk, James, Freddy one-glove, Chad, Naido, and presumably Sarah Palmer.
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