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A few things about Part 15

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These are my takeaways/observations/questions after having watched tonight's episode.

1. I suspect Freddie is being placed (fated) in the jail cell for a reason. The one that comes to mind most obviously at this juncture is that he'll protect Naido at some point. I am glad he's there.

2. If the next time we encounter Dougie Jones he is still, well, Dougie Jones, I'll be disappointed. I think he'll either be Dale Cooper when we see him next, or well on his way. That, or he'll still be Dougie Jones, on a stretcher at the ER. Ugh.

3. While I believe the workaround devised for a lack of David Bowie is the weakest integration for a dead actor's character (as opposed to Don Davis as Major Briggs, and Frank Silva as BOB), I still think the scene was effectively unsettling. What no one seems to be talking about (yet) is that Jeffries is now an evil entity. If we are known by our associates, and Jeffries can now be found in the realm above the convenience store, and is guarded by Woodsmen, then I'd say he's gone to the dark side. Too bad.

4. Speaking of Jeffries, did anyone feel like he (whatever he is now) was being evasive in that scene? Mr. C was asking him some pretty direct questions, and Jeffries wouldn't answer them. Mr. C asked him why he sent Ray to kill him. Jeffries' response was something along the lines of how he called Ray. That didn't really answer the question. And he certainly didn't answer Mr. C's repetitive query about who Judy was. And, perhaps I missed it, but did Jeffries answer the question about if he was on the phone with Mr. C back at that motel room?

5. A question I have is: Were Duncan Todd and his underling meant to be the double-header, and so now that's done? Or was Todd just one of the people marked, and the underling just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?

6. I feel like Audrey's either in coma or in the "nuthouse" that the two women mentioned at the Roadhouse in Part 14.

7. Speaking of the Roadhouse, what was up with the special introduction of, and the crowd's reaction to, some piped-in music for ZZ Top? I've never seen so much excitement for pre-recorded music.

8. Finally, we can put to bed that odd notion some had that Freddie was a figment of James's imagination.

 

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:38 pm
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rethink number 8...

look at the crowds reaction at the bar, its like he is not there, look at them in the cells how they interact.

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:39 pm
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All I can think about, concerning ZZ Top, is that the lyrics of the song say «new shoes». 

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:44 pm
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Posted by: Johan Pitz Petersson

rethink number 8...

look at the crowds reaction at the bar, its like he is not there, look at them in the cells how they interact.

So Bobby was locking-up and un-cuffing thin air?

Freddie is also Bobby's imaginary friend now?

James punched Chuck and the other guy while he was laying, dazed, on the floor of the Roadhouse?

What, exactly, am I supposed to rethink?

 

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:45 pm
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5. A question I have is: Were Duncan Todd and his underling meant to be the double-header, and so now that's done? Or was Todd just one of the people marked, and the underling just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?

Roger is not part of the double-header. When exiting the office post-kill she says to Hutch on the phone "One down, one to go."

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:48 pm
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5  Todd and Dougie are the Double Header.  Underling was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:48 pm
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Posted by: Matthew Gladney

5. A question I have is: Were Duncan Todd and his underling meant to be the double-header, and so now that's done? Or was Todd just one of the people marked, and the underling just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?

Double-header may have meant two jobs in Las Vegas. Duncan Todd would be the primary target plus any witnesses. I think the Family Jones is the second part. 

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:50 pm
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Posted by: CharlieSmith_ny

 

5. A question I have is: Were Duncan Todd and his underling meant to be the double-header, and so now that's done? Or was Todd just one of the people marked, and the underling just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?

Roger is not part of the double-header. When exiting the office post-kill she says to Hutch on the phone "One down, one to go."

Ah, ok. Thank you! I missed that bit of dialogue. I have a hearing loss, plus that sound on these later episodes is lower than the earlier ones.

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:51 pm
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5.  I thought Chantal said '1 down, 1 to go...'  so she didn't seem to count the underling.
I thought Todd's head exploded before he was shot.  Not in a conspiracy-theory way, but it was an odd effect.

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:52 pm
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Posted by: Lynn Watson

5.  I thought Chantal said '1 down, 1 to go...'  so she didn't seem to count the underling.
I thought Todd's head exploded before he was shot.  Not in a conspiracy-theory way, but it was an odd effect.

It did look really weird. 

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:55 pm
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Posted by: Lynn Watson

5.  I thought Chantal said '1 down, 1 to go...'  so she didn't seem to count the underling.
I thought Todd's head exploded before he was shot.  Not in a conspiracy-theory way, but it was an odd effect.

Did it blow before the sound or before Chantal pulled the trigger? It would be realistic to blow up before the sound of the bullet.

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 9:57 pm
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It just might be me, but didn't the "evolution" of Phillip Jefferies  resemble some sort of old coffee pot- percolator ?  I don;t know,,, I hope "dougie" zapped himself back into our beloved Dale Cooper...

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 10:00 pm
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5.  I thought Chantal said '1 down, 1 to go...'  so she didn't seem to count the underling.
I thought Todd's head exploded before he was shot.  Not in a conspiracy-theory way, but it was an odd effect.

Did it blow before the sound or before Chantal pulled the trigger? It would be realistic to blow up before the sound of the bullet.

I don't think it was a speed of light/sound thing.  I watched it a couple of times & it seemed odd, but I couldn't really say why...

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 10:01 pm
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Must rewatch episode, but I feel Jeffries was definitely evasive.  He didn't seem happy to see EvilCoop at all.  Of course I'm not sure who would.  But he wouldn't answer anything.  He has to be evil to hang out in the Convenience Store unless he's undercover, but that's a degree of undercover I'm not sure anyone could stand.

I agree about Coop coming back- I thought I'd cry and be overjoyed, but instead I'm so worried about how he fared by electrocuting himself!

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 10:09 pm
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I thought that Todd's blown up head and the quick closeup looked almost exactly like Hastings' head after getting killed in the police car by a Woodsman. I seem to remember Colby and Tracey's heads looking exactly the same after getting killed through the NYC glass box. Not one for gore, so I'm not going to rewind and repeatedly look at those scenes. Would be interested to see if someone else does, though.

 
Posted : 20/08/2017 10:59 pm
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