Around the dinner table, the conversation was lively. Thank you but for now, the forum has been archived.
I'm thinking that even once we have watched Part 18, there will still be a lot of questions hanging in the air. Although, I don't think there will be such a frustrating cliffhanger as there was at the end of season 2, I don't think everything will be neatly explained in a normal manner.
For example:
- We might never get a clear explanation of what's happening with Audrey.
- We may never get confirmation of who Richard's parents are.
- Strange little details like flashing windows and out-of-sync reflections might go unexplained.
I mean, just look at David Lynch's other films. He doesn't like to make clear story lines. So if anyone is thinking that Part 18 will somehow tie everything up all nice and neatly, I think they might be left disappointed.
I expect we will get some kind of clear ending regarding Cooper and possibly Major Briggs, but a lot of other strands will remain ambiguous. It's quite possible we might spend even longer discussing it all once it's finished.
What's going on with Audrey? It's possible that even David Lynch isn't quite sure...
I agree. The ending and other threads will be open to interpretation. And it wouldn't surprise me if the last scene was a catatonic Dougie drinking coffee, rather than the old dale cooper!
I agree. The ending and other threads will be open to interpretation. And it wouldn't surprise me if the last scene was a catatonic Dougie drinking coffee, rather than the old dale cooper!
My hunch now is that Special Agent Dale Cooper will return to us only through Gordon's poignant recognition of the man he once knew in "Dougie Jones."
Bank on a Gordon-Albert-Cooper reunion, either way.
Thanks, Laughingatsky, for a timely and thought-provoking topic and commentary!
For what it's worth... while it's an admittedly anti-social stance, I'm actually hopeful we don't find Twin Peaks demystified in the remaining episodes or the forthcoming book. It wouldn't be what it is IMO if it were no longer a place of yearning, longing, wonder and the anguish of the impossibility of ever truly understanding "the evil that lurks in the hearts of men..."
Audrey and Charlie strike me as a thread in the plot that would really suffer were there to be a big "reveal" that she is still in a coma, undergoing psychothereapy, etc. This kind of "Rosebud" trickery is pretty played out at this point, IMO (c.f. M. Night Shyamalan, LOST, etc.)
OTOH, my favorite hypothesis about what the end of Twin Peaks will bring is, well, The End in an absolute sense-- that the world/cosmos will literally unravel and nothing will be explained... "NON-EXISTENCE!" said the Doppelgänger of The Evolution of The Arm. A crushing disappointment for everyone hoping that the heroes will triumph... and yet a logical extension of the very "meta" and 'Brechtian' direction in which things have unfolded so far...
Like Don Herzfeltd's animated short, Rejected, in other words... but with characters we love. Either trolling fans or devastatingly honest about, well, mortality-- something almost nobody is comfortable confronting ahead of schedule.
It's Lynch and Frost's last chance to tell the story how they want to tell it. Which means they won't go for any clichés IMO.
All I know is I've been enthralled with every second so far. I'm not seeing the ending as an impending conclusion, as I think the series is different from other series in which the last episode is saved for the answer/solution. So I personally have no expectations for the ending, other than not to assume that the answers will be given.
As I've aid before, D. Lynch doesn't do cliches. The new show will go down in history as unique television art.
It's possible that Evil Cooper might be the one who survives. It's also possible that both Coopers might die.
As I've aid before, D. Lynch doesn't do cliches. The new show will go down in history as unique television art.
I certainly hope so. Perhaps (with many others) it'll be a slow burner (in the same way that FWWM was laughed out of Cannes, but now largely revered).
It was booed, not laughed at. A big part of that was people of Cannes hated the head of CIBY-2000 which produced the film.
It was booed, not laughed at. A big part of that was people of Cannes hated the head of CIBY-2000 which produced the film.
Why was that? There's so much behind the scenes drama I don't know about. I just watched FWWM for the first time after the first couple episodes of the return and was floored by it. I was shocked to find out everyone, at the time, panned it.
Then I found out everyone hated Dune. How can anyone hate Dune? That was my childhood sci fi movie!
Why does everyone hate everything I love.
It was booed, not laughed at. A big part of that was people of Cannes hated the head of CIBY-2000 which produced the film.
Booed and laughed at (not with) are two very bad days at the office. Interesting to hear that it may have been a strategical booing, which lessens the impact somewhat (but is still terribly rude).
It was booed, not laughed at. A big part of that was people of Cannes hated the head of CIBY-2000 which produced the film.
Why was that? There's so much behind the scenes drama I don't know about. I just watched FWWM for the first time after the first couple episodes of the return and was floored by it. I was shocked to find out everyone, at the time, panned it.
Then I found out everyone hated Dune. How can anyone hate Dune? That was my childhood sci fi movie!
Why does everyone hate everything I love.
Dune is not as bad as some people make it out to be. I saw it in the theatre when it came out, thrilled that a film version of a quality science fiction novel had been done.
BTW the Baron's heart-valve scene was right up David Lynch's alley.
It was booed, not laughed at. A big part of that was people of Cannes hated the head of CIBY-2000 which produced the film.
Why was that? There's so much behind the scenes drama I don't know about. I just watched FWWM for the first time after the first couple episodes of the return and was floored by it. I was shocked to find out everyone, at the time, panned it.
Then I found out everyone hated Dune. How can anyone hate Dune? That was my childhood sci fi movie!
Why does everyone hate everything I love.
Dune is not as bad as some people make it out to be. I saw it in the theatre when it came out, thrilled that a film version of a quality science fiction novel had been done.
BTW the Baron's heart-valve scene was right up David Lynch's alley.
Omg that scene is the worst. So great though. The baron is disgusting but he's so fantastic to watch. And the scene with Paul and Stilgar riding the worm with that electric guitar playing in the background is the best. I was so excited when I realized that was Big Ed. 😀
It was booed, not laughed at. A big part of that was people of Cannes hated the head of CIBY-2000 which produced the film.
Francis Bouygues, boss of CIBY 2000, was a french billionaire, who made his fortune in building towers, houses, highways, airports, etc...some concrete all over the country.
But...he was also owner of TF1, number 1 channel in France, a channel who was public before he bought it to french state with big money and promisses.
One of the promisses was more culture contents in the programs.
The reality : much much more advertising and culture was a dirty word on this channel.
So many french people involved in culture business really hated Francis Bouygues.
Then, when the first movie of CIBY 2000 was presented in Cannes, all these people where here to shot on Bouygues.
David Lynch was a collateral damage IMO.
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