Around the dinner table, the conversation was lively. Thank you but for now, the forum has been archived.
Yes, I GET that the French girl scene was meta and meant to be comedic. You have to be metaphorically speaking deaf and blind not to.
Problem is that the humour DIDN'T WORK.
You are writing that from an overly objective standpoint, but clearly it is a subjective one. I for one couldn't stop laughing throughout the scene!
Yes, I GET that the French girl scene was meta and meant to be comedic. You have to be metaphorically speaking deaf and blind not to.
Problem is that the humour DIDN'T WORK. It was too smug, too obvious, too much of a piss-take at us, loyal TP fans who have kept Lynch's flawed creation alive for 26 years and made this minor miracle of its' resurrection possible. The moron hasn't been able to fund a film or show for 11 years. He is now getting this once in a lifetime opportunity to indulge in a whole saga of his creative weirdness with no controls thanks to us and us alone. And there he is - exasperating and laughing at us.
I just wanted to take that murderous-looking stiletto and shove it in his smugly grinning face in that scene. Yeah, Lynch, HYSTERICAL.
And those saying it's a comment on gender - it's an embarassing failure at one. If you want feminist, gender-challenging humour - watch Jane the Virgin, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt or Glow. Lynch has some bloody nerve even attempting to go there through his entitled prism.
It sounds like you're having loads of fun while watching the show.
Actually, I've enjoyed it so far with all its' flaws. It's this particular scene that made me furious. Had to vent.
Maybe my needs for meta humour are a tad too sophisticated for the level Lynch is providing here. It's just not clever enough for me, so it just drives me bonkers.
Yes, I GET that the French girl scene was meta and meant to be comedic. You have to be metaphorically speaking deaf and blind not to.
Problem is that the humour DIDN'T WORK. It was too smug, too obvious, too much of a piss-take at us, loyal TP fans who have kept Lynch's flawed creation alive for 26 years and made this minor miracle of its' resurrection possible. The moron hasn't been able to fund a film or show for 11 years. He is now getting this once in a lifetime opportunity to indulge in a whole saga of his creative weirdness with no controls thanks to us and us alone. And there he is - exasperating and laughing at us.
I just wanted to take that murderous-looking stiletto and shove it in his smugly grinning face in that scene. Yeah, Lynch, HYSTERICAL.
And those saying it's a comment on gender - it's an embarassing failure at one. If you want feminist, gender-challenging humour - watch Jane the Virgin, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt or Glow. Lynch has some bloody nerve even attempting to go there through his entitled prism.
Hi Groovy Llama,
Thanks for your post(s). You've been outspoken about problematizing the persistence of Lynch's aestheticized/stylized misogyny-- I, for one, am grateful for your doing so, much as Myn0k has raised the issue of Lynch's representations of disability that had otherwise gone unacknowledged ...
Your critique prompted a connection for me:
The manner in which the departure of the French woman was shot and paced reminded me of the eroticized rape/battery scene in Blue Velvet, Lynch's most notorious and problematic scene to date, IMO.
If so, that's a pretty grotesque self-citation... onanism? Maybe Lynch, as Gordon, is positioning himself as an artistic representation of his object of critique.... but this strains credulity, IMO.
I didn't even mind the Audrey scene - I found it fascinating and the commentary on the audience's expectations works there. But with the French girl - it's just too low brow.
"For Lynch and Del Rey alike, all men are criminals at heart; women — young and beautiful women in particular — are doomed to fall under their sway. Both artists, too, have taken heat for their alleged glorification of female mistreatment, and though there is a crucial distinction to be made between depicting abuses of power and advocating for them, their art, because it is powerful in its own right, necessarily leads to some confusion among those for whom forces, regardless of form and valence, are indistinguishable from one another."
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