Anyone else notice that Mullins spontaneously began to speak like Dougie when he said 'Bushnell double down' instead of doubled......? He must have been highly influenced by the luck 'Mr. Jackpots' has been bringing him in his gambling.
On a side note: I was flipping around the TV last night and saw this old movie called 'Encino Man', about a 'caveman' with raw libido and full of energy who comes to 1990s California by way of being frozen, is thawed, and is basically used as a detached 'arm' for a high school kid to make him cool, give him confidence. That caveman talks exactly like Dougie and the social interactions are the same, he just repeats part of what people say and somehow everything just works out incredibly, people just assume he is the best, etc.... Something like a 'boss' who is completely irrational, etc...that is ruling everything, like a gamble, and somehow everyone believes everything is going to work out. Dougie is a zombified version of this type of 'boss', but I dont think it would matter what the guy is as long as he is irrational, just allows a guarantee that you can gamble everything irrationally(like the old Dougie was doing), then somehow everything is supposed to be saved.....that double down is not going to last forever.....end up in rancho rosa......
That 'viva las vegas' music accompanies this whole 'lucky 7' insurance thing, insurance is gambling, how is Dougie going to insure success?
I'm not sure how I feel about a Pauly Shore movie used as an example for anything.....especially this. I think I might have died inside just a little.
I think the first full exploration of this idea was Peter Sellers - Being There - which has been cinematically referenced in The Return. The changing my life scene at the dinner table is very much like a few scenes in Being There.
I would suggest watching it for an amazing film experience.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078841/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_There
I'm not sure how I feel about a Pauly Shore movie used as an example for anything.....especially this. I think I might have died inside just a little.
Exactly, the same 'pauly shore' mentality is what 'manufactures' Dougie from this movie, and Dougie is 'dead' while Bushnell is alive and doubling down. The 'alive with pleasure' Pauly shore mentality, irrational and everything is going to work out mentality, is dead in Dougie, he went all the way with this gambling and drinking and ended up dead in rancho rosa with Jade.....in a cesspit.....thats why cooper/dougie says 'dead' then the guy says 'red door' and he looks...was just going after enjoyment, like the caveman, dead...
Just think about it for a second, that viva las vegas music playing, the idea behind that song, then the switch to the shot of Dougies face, not exactly 'alive with pleasure' in beautiful las vegas, like the encino man......
Also what caught my eye about that movie was the way the caveman talks to people, nearly identical to the way Dougie interacts....
One example of this 'up to down', 'red door/enjoyment to melancholia/death', dougie and the 'california man' are manufactured to make chasing the 'red door' a rule, an example or leader showing that you can do this, not figure out the mysteries or fix problmes, but just live the las vegas principle as a rule, everything is a joke, etc., much like the way Chad lives. These sort of 'bosses' who dont know anything whatsoever and barely talk are very popular and taken as leaders because it absolves everyone of the duty to take care of love/law and the genuine impact it brings on ones life, inclusive of melancholia/death, but this still happens, is just ignored and those people are drained like Dougie/Candie. Mr. C/Billionaires manufacture this sort of principle to allow people to be passive, seeking to go wild here and there, then end up in rancho rosa like the 119 lady.
Why was that scene with the cherry pie so much like the scene in 'Seven' where the criminal brings the head of the police's wife to him? He was bringing them Candie's head....she died in that final scene, seems to have given up on real love that she was crying about, just stuck in the traffic jam and accepting it, with tears(much like the original agent cooper who had problems with 'philadelphia' and 'caroline' who died tragically because of cooper's romantic engagement....he was also, stuck in a traffic jam and just enjoying the scenery of twin peaks, why he failed and went crazy). The Mitchums were so caught up in cherry pie, the money, getting Dougie, etc. they watched Canide die over the course of the last two episodes....while they were going crazy about Dougie, Candie was dying inside, thus Dougie brings them Candie's head.....something died inside of Candie in that final scene, genunie melancholia and tragedy right under the 'california man'/las vegas surface... Dougie is living-death/zombie in that limo, viva las vegas is not the caveman/'california man', but Dougie the zombie...
It's a fair observation to be honest, because what I think Murat is highlighting is that Dougie is separate from the drama of everyone else, and having that drama-less vessel somehow seems to calm everyone and make everything else turn out ok. A balancing influence. I think.
It's a fair observation to be honest, because what I think Murat is highlighting is that Dougie is separate from the drama of everyone else, and having that drama-less vessel somehow seems to calm everyone and make everything else turn out ok. A balancing influence. I think.
I think what weve seen so far indicates there is not just a 'balancing', but something more like a 'conflict', an extreme unbalance and unsolved injustice, as indicated by the final scene with the 'melacholia' contrasted with the 'upbeat' music. Everything else does not turn out OK, while the Mitchums are eating pie with Dougie, Dougie and Candie are in melancholia. Or, in Twin Peaks, how the town is degrading, but most characters are still convinced everything is great, or that it is still possible to 'return' to the old twin peaks, that its guaranteed to be there no matter what they do.....Look at Dougie, how he acts, and all the horror going on in the world of Twin Peaks, everything is certainly not OK, people just using the Dougie character, to say that even though they know everything is really not alright, somehow a non-existent 'jackpot' will save them via the quirky and cool Dougie(Twin peaks, douglas firs, pie, etc.) will save them, just take one look at him and get out of the 'viva las vegas' illusion, everything is not OK and will not be........
Its sort of like a sick joke to me, the guy is a zombie looking freak, all kinds of horror going on; all you have to do is take one look at Dougie/Cooper to know that everything is not OK, but people somehow find a way to cower out of the problems and persist in the false belief that everything is OK, a jackpot is around the corner, this is the 'sleepwalking for 25 years', never solved the Laura Palmer mystery, just covered over it quickly and went on while things continue to slowly degrade into madness more and more....thats why they can look at Dougie and say, he is a cool guy enjoying(just like the caveman), just like in the 'viva las vegas' song, Mullins approach here
Definitely more of a 'core inbalance' thing going on here, lie an atomic explosion at the core of reality, creating fire.....funny thing is that people find a way to just accept anything if they can be convinced that a vegas jackpot is around the corner....that was Dougies entire life, manufactured to give cover to Mr. C, was gambling, with Jade, etc., thought this was going to get him 'jackpots', but ended up with him dying in ranco rosa.....all the while he thought he was living the dream.....
I think the first full exploration of this idea was Peter Sellers - Being There - which has been cinematically referenced in The Return. The changing my life scene at the dinner table is very much like a few scenes in Being There.
I would suggest watching it for an amazing film experience.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078841/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_There
Dougie/Cooper also reminded me M. Hulot from Tati back when I first saw the character, never heard of this movie though.....
I happened to see that encino man, and the content here is much closer to what is going on in twin peaks than tati though, because of the 'california man' attitude, that even if you have a caveman or a zombie walking around that can barely talk, it immediately turns into a chance for 'cheap thrills' or an assurance that everything is great.
Remember what Candie said about the traffic jam, she hits an obstacle and instead of finding a problem with it, she just sees all the beautiful cars, learns to give up on the problem and pretend everything is great, even though she looks like she is going to burst in tears half the time(upbeat music vs. melancholia, etc.). Contrast this with Bobby, who was investigating the traffic jam and looked perplexed, as if it is a mystery to understand and a problem to try and solve......still hasnt given up on solving the problems, neither has the log lady or the twin peaks cops, unlike Chad who has learned just to 'enjoy this beautiful day'.... Even if you see Zombie cooper/dougie in a limo, that viva las vegas plays, is stronger than ever, the Mitchums are elated, even if a zombie freak threatens them, everything is going to turn out fine, etc..............how did the guy get like that, from 'viva las vegas'...
Mr. C/billionaires, Mitchums, Chad, Mullins all double down on Dougie, the 'California man' and 'viva las vegas/rancho rosa', while agent cooper is doubling down on antagonism with these conditions, seeking justice, law, etc. This whole Bushnell-Dougie/Cooper-Mitchums sequence as 'viva las vegas' has to do with insurance coinciding with gambling: the insurance, the basic conditions maintained by the ruling ideas enforced by the rulers/leaders(in this case Mr. C/Billionaire), the life you live by default, the insurance of what is there even if your endeavors do not turn out the way you want or go wrong due to some contingency, which of course is always guaranteed to happen that things go wrong, no matter capable a person is. Here the insurance, the life/state/government of life, is gambling, do some gambling or always seeking wild enjoyment or transgression, try and maintain a balance that things will go right(Shelly here, does reckless stuff, but moderately, still tries to maintain a hold on things), or thrown caution to the wind and go wild like Dougie did with drinking and gambling, same with 119 girl. What is ignored here is these conditions, life/government/state, etc., are worked upon by man and improved so that our activity changes them, for example man can build shelter and improve his conditions, or institute freedom as a ruling principle to improve the basic conditions of life, provide a dignified survival etc for people. This endeavor to improve the conditions of life is ignored by Dougie, who was very happy to just engage in obscenities and 'enjoy the beautiful day' like Chad, but when Agent Cooper entered his body he was not happy at all, but became like a zombie completely crushed in this abomination of life that is california man and viva las vegas, thats why he is now looking at symbols of the law, he wants to improve the state of affairs, the conditions of life, the government/state, etc., but is crushed down by the primordial slop enveloping him from all directions; the prevailing law is that of gambling, the 'insurance'/basic conditions of freedom/life is going wild like a caveman and pretending everything is going to be fine, but right around the corner we have Mr. C/billionaires also going wild, winning all the bets, making sure of that etc., thus once we go to wild gambling as insurance, we are back in 'caveman times', a state of nature ruled by force, whoever has the biggest club wins everything, there is no 'law to the situation', just force, gambling, explosion of energy, then being like a zombie being drained or a vampire draining. Thus Mr. C/billionaires manufactured Dougie who just 'lets things slide' into conditions of ranco rosa, while somehow pretending everything is going to work out....Thus the agent cooper aspect of dougie is the one not happy by being crushed into Dougie's life, the one who hit ike, the one crushed by that 'viva las vegas'/ranch rosa life that is so far away from the duty and justice he was seeking in the original twin peaks. Cooper has a lot of work to do, but there are a few others who are like him in their disapproval (Candie when she hit that Mitchum, before she was crushed in that final scene and gave up on 'love', Carl Rodd who was complaining about the government and sees this life as a nightmare via Becky/Steven, for some examples)
Dougie is about getting people to accept conditions as all right, no matter what problems and horrors are imposed upon them; and this 'california man'/'viva las vegas' way of life prevents them from pursuing them and figuring out whats going on, then attempting to fix it......like the caveman who is an obscene idiot or Dougie who is a horrific zombie, but both become the most popular guy around, because this sort of principle/leading idea allows people to hide from trouble/antagonism, dealing with problems, then doesnt matter what happens, what you do....this is the most popular principle, allows you to hide from the problem
Erm... I think you're making a big deal out of a sloppy way of speaking. Bushnell doesn't have the world's clearest diction, after all.
Erm... I think you're making a big deal out of a sloppy way of speaking. Bushnell doesn't have the world's clearest diction, after all.
I expanded from that 'Bushnell double down' phrase into Bushnell's relations with Dougie, Dougie's with 'viva las vegas' song and lifestyle, and also Mitchums/Dougie relations..........for example, Bushnell is very happy and energetic, while Cooper/Dougie holds his jaw and says 'dead', the Cooper part arising within Dougie's life and conditions(his world/law/government) is certainly not 'doubling down', but seems crushed by the situation, barely aware............
That 'viva las vegas' music accompanies this whole 'lucky 7' insurance thing, insurance is gambling, how is Dougie going to insure success?
Hi Murat,
Insurance really isn't gambling. It is all based on the Law of Large Numbers and actuarial tables. Not really much risk at all.
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Erm... I think you're making a big deal out of a sloppy way of speaking. Bushnell doesn't have the world's clearest diction, after all.
I expanded from that 'Bushnell double down' phrase into Bushnell's relations with Dougie, Dougie's with 'viva las vegas' song and lifestyle, and also Mitchums/Dougie relations..........for example, Bushnell is very happy and energetic, while Cooper/Dougie holds his jaw and says 'dead', the Cooper part arising within Dougie's life and conditions(his world/law/government) is certainly not 'doubling down', but seems crushed by the situation, barely aware............
Aye, that you are. Point taken, and well made.
That 'viva las vegas' music accompanies this whole 'lucky 7' insurance thing, insurance is gambling, how is Dougie going to insure success?
Hi Murat,
Insurance really isn't gambling. It is all based on the Law of Large Numbers and actuarial tables. Not really much risk at all.
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Right, the risk/gamble was taking out such a large 30 million claim for such a small firm, thus he was forced to 'double down' on his gamble by taking a secondary policy..........or in the case of buying insurance, on whether or not you can predict the contingency of if you will be injured or not and when.........Its sort of this idea of opening everything up to something that flows to a billionaire boss necessarily in the long term since their resources and force insure that they can withstand risks and hedge their bets, much like Mullins did, or the Mitchums using Dougie as a Mr. jackpots, or Mr. C/billionaires controlling lodge manifestations to maintain this flow and manufacturing dougie to sell this life to people, as their model. when conditions of a dignified basic existence are not taken care of in a civilized way, the person is somehow forced to try and predict what will happen and gamble their limited resources on that outcome, but we know by statistics, probability, that contingently(based on accidents, unpredictable things, things not necessary from efforts you put in, etc.) a large portion of those people will make the wrong 'predictions/gambles' and end up in rancho rosa....that is not a gamble(especially with technology and financialization which makes people redundant in such a statistical 'state of affairs' imposed on the situation, so they have nothing to gamble in the first place, leads to slavery)....Dougie I guess took this to his limits and broke out of it into zombie cooper, finally done with it, nothing to that life but calling '119', or trying to be 'agent cooper'/law, change the conditions/state/frame of idea;
Also in this show, the insurance is metaphoric for the background conditions, basic conditions of freedom, life, etc. that is provided by the state/law, etc....no matter what, you are 'insured' certain rights, certain dignity, etc., law is enforced......; Dougie was gambling all this away, had no standards, much like the California man, 'just let it flow', also, Mr. C/billionaires has suspended all laws in their campaign of terror to make sure everything 'flows' to them, thus they manufactured the 'california man' as the perfect subject of their to open up the flow of money/'spice' to them without complaint or even noticing it, much like the way the Mitchums are now trying to use Dougie.........the 'california man's' insurance is gambling, then hoping everything will work out, can do anything no matter how irrational, then will somehow be saved.....yes, by Jade with your money while you die of a stroke in beautiful rancho rosa.............
the demand for full insurance or guarantee always ultimately fails, since there are 'no stars', but void/contingency, etc., so that 'winning becomes losing', etc.; there is no guarantee since nature, our insurance, our 'state' depends on human interaction with this background guarantee, so that it can be taken away, improved, rationalized, dependent on gambling/mafia/billionaires, etc....depends on the exchanges in politics/ethics/economy and how these areas of human interaction are 'framed', turned into tools to interacted with the basic contingency void which always throws back problems, how to deal with this; if its about hedging bets to funnel cash to a few big bosses who make everything their property, thats one thing, if its about creating a free society with dignified conditions of life, thats another; so in twin peaks this is when we hit some crazy unexplainable problem that the charachters must then deal with and find out, bring some law and acceptable conditions to the situation, make it a just exchange, etc.(for example when bullets randomly fly into the diner and bobby is forced to go out and confront the problem, now there are clues to solve, mystery to uncover, then plan the right frame of action to deal with it in the best way, this is freedom to change the frame of how we deal with things, not freedom to gamble and pretend everything is great and it is going to work out(irrationality, caveman or zombie will save us, just act crazy, let it all flow, etc.), and how it is going to work out is determined by fate/predestination/the governing state or frame which forms the results, and this is controlled by Mr. C/billionaires, the 'letting it flow' without the activity that changes the law/framing goes to them and this is why they are so intent on controlling what comes in and out of the void/red room/lodges, they are controlling the 'frame of reality', the state/government which structures conditions of life, etc.....so that they manufactured Dougie/caveman as this model citizen, docile guy who doesnt question anything and just lets it flow, assuming everything is great, etc, the guarantee is irrationality, being docile, not solving the mystery, asking question, whats wrong?, etc., and thats why the caveman/dougie is so appealing, the ideal of this working out perfectly, hit all the jackpots, etc. is the fantasy of insurance that is really rancho rosa, turns into a nightmare, since Mr. C/billionaires are framing so they are guaranteed to get the jackpots....
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