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Best theory I've heard is that Annie is some sort of lodge entity or spirit or...well, however you prefer to describe "them". Her being in the convent is suggestive of her not being a black lodge entity.
Elder Mitchum brother DEFINITELY said "Annie" at least once in that exchange. I believe it's most easily heard listening to the third time he says her name, just before he says "where were you", which may be a rhetorical question that the audience has been wondering about her as well.
It is interesting. Some characters (like Donna....and so far whoever "Judy" was supposed to be), we're just supposed to forget ever existed (or seemed to exist). Others like Annie are more critical than originally let on.
Going to be interesting if she is Annie, since that was Cooper's love interest and now he has Janey-E. Something tells me she won't give up Dougie without a fight.
Oh, do you mean that Annie was some kind of 'caretaker' for guiding Cooper or something?
from Annie's Miss Twin Peaks speech
"That we're new warriors, mystic warriors who love the earth and tried to save it."
To me it sounded like he said Annie, then Candie, then Annie again. And I'm used to accents where consonants can get ditched very easily... but it didn't sound like that 'cos usually the rhythm of the word stays the same.
On first listen, I didn't even notice. Going back to re-listen, this is exactly what it sounds like.
Are we all thinking Mitchum said - Annie, look at me?
Employing the "Royal We", we are not.
To me it sounded like he said Annie, then Candie, then Annie again. And I'm used to accents where consonants can get ditched very easily... but it didn't sound like that 'cos usually the rhythm of the word stays the same.
On first listen, I didn't even notice. Going back to re-listen, this is exactly what it sounds like.
Rodney absolutely says, Annie, Candie, Annie. As Lynn Watson says above, the meter and intonation is different between the names, so I'm sensing this is entirely intentional. It could be relevant or it could be mischief. A few glasses of champagne render my speech a little random. I've not called my wife by another name, that said. 😉
Back to the book. IMO Frost isn't going to throw a major plot hole into the book unless it relates to the story.
So while some people say it isn't canon, Frost is principal writer with Lynch. So it can be accepted as canon IMO. And Frost would have introduced these things for a reason I think.
I did a re-listen on that part just for kicks, and it really does sound like he says "Annie" that 3rd time.
When he says it, that's when she perks up too.
Ok, maybe Candie is Annie...
and the other girls are Audrey Horne and Catherine Martel 🙂
If Blackburn, does actually refers to the "Black Fire" that Hawk talks about and since that is not well intentioned fire... and giving the history of Lynch's endings, might it be that Annie is "Mother"? Mother shows to be a scary character and if we take the cube murder as her own act of feeding from fear and all that Black Lodge mumbo jumbo.
Given all this theories and how she spoke back in the old TP, I would really enjoy the idea of her being an entity of some sort from the White Lodge, guiding our loved and blessed fella Dale.
I must admit, that would be a not a great development for the character if she turns out to be the baddie. I really feel and hope not. I would be quite pleased if someone just tell me I am wrong and the good Annie is just plain goodness.
Are we all thinking Mitchum said - Annie, look at me?
Employing the "Royal We", we are not.
That's something Yoda said, isn't it? 😉
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To me it sounded like he said Annie, then Candie, then Annie again. And I'm used to accents where consonants can get ditched very easily... but it didn't sound like that 'cos usually the rhythm of the word stays the same.
On first listen, I didn't even notice. Going back to re-listen, this is exactly what it sounds like.
Rodney absolutely says, Annie, Candie, Annie. As Lynn Watson says above, the meter and intonation is different between the names, so I'm sensing this is entirely intentional. It could be relevant or it could be mischief. A few glasses of champagne render my speech a little random. I've not called my wife by another name, that said. 😉
"Caaandie... CANDIE!"
Regardless of what it was the Mitchum brother referred to Candie as, he asked her what took so long. She responded, "There was so much traffic. There were so many cars. They were everywhere!" A parallel to the traffic impeded by the child in front of the Double R. Bobby walks over to the honking car and the woman inside says she's late for dinner.
After Candie tells elder Mitchum why she's tardy, she then has joined the Dinner Table, wherein around, the company and conversation is most lively... This might be the Doppelganger's dinner table while the others are hurrying to arrive at another.
The subtitles have been wrong before, in particular the Bing/Billy mix up.
When queried about the stamp on the postcard from Norma and the identity of Norma's mother in TSHoTP, MF said, "all will be revealed in time." So there may be something to Norma and Annie not being whom we think they are.
When queried about the stamp on the postcard
That postcard reminds me of the old Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective game.
Everything about "The Return" has been perfectly beyond any of my expectations.
The subtitles have been wrong before, in particular the Bing/Billy mix up.
Showtime issued a statement on the Bing/Billy mix up though. Still no word of retraction yet. I'm not convinced it's Annie.
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