Those last 5 minutes at the roadhouse made me feel nostalgic too.

twin peaks was a show I can fall to sleep to because it is so magical and comforting, then have nightmares about it just the same ??

but I suppose that came with age, I don't know that this will ever feel as much like a warm fuzzy embrace 

the original series there was always an undercurrent of trying to fight against this THING this darkness.....this time around it is consumed in darkness, who can fight it? Hawk? Unlikely....

but then look at the world we live in 25 years later people overall do seem to lack goodness and an ability to fight against the evils of the world, so the tone I suppose is very much set in present day dystopia

 The weird thing about these new episodes, is that all the stuff from the town of Twin Peaks seems less important. I don't know why the chose to show that scene with Benjamin and Jerry, as well as the scenes with Dr. Jacoby. Not to mention the scenes from the Road House. They suddenly seem so irrelevant and out of place.  They didn't move the story along at all. In fact they seemed completely pointless. The only thing from the town of Twin Peaks that didn't seem pointless was the scenes with The Log Lady. Her scenes sure has something to do with the development of the new plot line.
I think they should have waited longer to re-introduce the old characters.Or maybe the other way around. Maybe they could have started in Twin Peaks, and once Lucy says that Cooper is missing, a cut to Coopers present whereabouts and then everything else rolls out. My guessing is that perhaps that was the original plan, but maybe the network kept insisting on showing more of the old characters right from the start. That could explain why the scenes with the old familiar characters ended up so fragmented and completely out of place. Or maybe this is just the way David and Mark wanted it to be. But it doesn't seem like good storytelling to me.

On first viewing I can perceive it as a bit of an annoyance that not more time in spent in the physical town of Twin Peaks, but the show already does have more runtime real estate in the eponymous town than the beginning of Fire Walk With Me did. I believe after my second viewing that it's providing just enough to keep you curious to see more and spur that appetite to engage the mystery. The shovel project with Jacoby is likely headed in a certain direction. We know for certain that more characters will be seen in the episodes to come. This is what it's like to get a TV show one episode at a time like back before streaming whole seasons was possible.

After finishing episode 4 i have really mixed feelings. Im aware, that i am watching something created by D.Lynch, but there are this tiny things. First of all, i pretty much start to like where this episodes leads to. Finding Mr.Rainman, ehm sorry, Mr.Jackpot is pretty much interesting to watch. But some scenes gives me feeling, that i had been insulted as an part of audience. (few spoilers ahead) after i saw scene outside with andy, lucy, their son and sherif. I couldnt believe what i saw. I was asking myself if David made it on purpose. This whole scene could be great, if my iq were somewhere around 90. I really expected much more and i hope, for good of David, that this will better lead to something.

Anyways, im looking forward to see what will happen in next episodes, and i wish all twin peaks fans to experience a great times while watchng this tv show.

Nah, it's all good.  I was creased double laughing at the scene with Andy, Lucy and their son.   Consider, these are two people who are - to be kind - somewhat cognitively impaired, with a son who is some kind of intellectual and appears to have been possessed by the spirit of Jack Kerouac.  Pretentious, too.  Remind you of anyone?  Andy's former rival for Lucy's attentions, maybe?

Anyhow, it, and many other scenes were - to me - laugh out loud funny.  All of it was by far and away the best thing on TV in the last 25 years.

Oh, Dick, of course. Now it make sense. 😀

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AMr.Rainman, ehm sorry, Mr.Jackpot is pretty much interesting to watch. But some scenes gives me feeling, that i had been insulted as an part of audience. (few spoilers ahead) after i saw scene outside with andy, lucy, their son and sherif. I couldnt believe what i saw. I was asking myself if David made it on purpose. This whole scene could be great, if my iq were somewhere around 90. I really expected much more and i hope, for good of David, that this will better lead to something.

 

Anyways, im looking forward to see what will happen in next episodes, and i wish all twin peaks fans to experience a great times while watchng this tv show.

I think the purpose of the Wally scene isn't so much to give you information about Wally as it is to present the relationship with Truman brothers as well as portray the kind of personality that Frank Truman has. He keeps his calm and allows Wally his time to finish. That's not a plot moment; it's a character moment. We learn that Andy and Lucy do still very much care about old-time values. I don't know if Wally will be seen again or not, but I don't dislike his scene. 

The scene with Wally was funny and awesome man! When i learned that Cera will be in the new TP i was like really? What kind of role he will have and how will he fit? Well, Lynch found the perfect fit for him! as the son of Lucy and Andy! 

Exactly, Twin Peaks was about some dark happenings but mostly about a bunch of good-hearted & funny people. There was the right dose of mistery and then all the endearing characters, the humor and, best of all, the comforting atmosphere. I think the comforting, positive vibe is what kept the original TP in our hearts all these years. It was about love over evil - already in the first episodes.

The new TP is cool but is more about evil not love, which won't move some of us in the same way. Where's the warmth, the cosiness, the fun??

"Where are all the things we loved in the original?" is a dangerous attitude. It may work (kinda) with stuff like "Star Wars" or "X-Files", but going into something lynchian expecting "more of the same" or with preconceived ideas about "how something should be", "how a certain character should behave" and so on... to me, it feels like an exercise in (self)disappointment. 

The original series was choke-full of expositional dialogues. That clearly wasn't Lynch intention, since exposition is something he always did (mostly) without. This is to say that Lynch, in the late '80s/early '90s, was a young, if somewhat established, director - meaning he had to compromise, to come to terms with TPTB. Today he is widely recognized as a genius with almost 50 year of experience in filmmaking, and he's close to the end of his career. He is going to do whatever he damn please - and rightfully so, I believe.

Does this mean that this isn't going to be the 'old' Twin Pe-- of course it does! And that, to me, is part of the point: this is not going to be a "nostalgia driven" kind of ride - this is going to be something new, unprecedent and never done before on TV and in this regard it is the perfect follow-up to a show that, at the time, was exactly that (new, unprecedented and never done before on TV).  

Many series and franchise are victimized by their fanbase who seem to declare a kind of ownership over the material. It immobilizes new narratives and prevents the creators from taking risks. I personally haven't seen many superhero movies of late because their stories are just cut and pasted from comic books. Anytime there's a marginal deviation from the source material, crowds of fans revolt and demand a redo. 

I admire that Lynch and Frost have stood their ground on making sure this new return is completely within their control without interference from the studio. I'll admit there were times watching the new episodes and I was frustrated by what I wasn't seeing. But I had to remind myself I wasn't watching for a catch up on what all the old familiar characters were doing. This is a new continuation that means to go beyond where the original began. 

My theory is that it will feel more and more like Twin Peaks as Cooper makes his way back, as if Cooper were somehow the heart of the town (and the series) and his returning will bring everything back to stasis.  In fact I'm convinced that's why the season is dubbed "The Return", it's the return of not just the series but of Cooper himself.

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Many series and franchise are victimized by their fanbase who seem to declare a kind of ownership over the material. It immobilizes new narratives and prevents the creators from taking risks. I personally haven't seen many superhero movies of late because their stories are just cut and pasted from comic books. Anytime there's a marginal deviation from the source material, crowds of fans revolt and demand a redo. 

I admire that Lynch and Frost have stood their ground on making sure this new return is completely within their control without interference from the studio. I'll admit there were times watching the new episodes and I was frustrated by what I wasn't seeing. But I had to remind myself I wasn't watching for a catch up on what all the old familiar characters were doing. This is a new continuation that means to go beyond where the original began. 

Agreed.  What would be the point of retreading all the old scenes?  25 years have gone by, things have happened.  Even Andy and Lucy acknowledge the changes, with Lucy's failure to deal with calls on cell phones.

The canon established in the original shows is intact, anyhow.  What's happening now doesn't detract from that; it shows the contemporary world and moves the story along at the same time.

Unfortunately some people think of original TP as cherry pie & Nadine on the wrestling team with a murder mystery. David & Mark Frost were forced to water it down a bit for a mainstream audience on ABC, and later in S. 2  they were not around, and guest directors & writers came up with bad filler ideas like James outside TP. David came back to do the final ep., but there was no hope of changing ABC's mind about killing it by then.

 FWWM, which David said was key to the new show, he was able to create his true vision uncensored. That film had humor as well, though not constantly like on ABC. Some of those that haven't seen FWWM, or who hated it, it seems were wanting basically Twin Peaks in the "Return to Mayberry" type story-line. TP is David's world, he's an artist being true to his vision. He'd rather make less money & be less popular than just be another creator who'll be forgotten because it's just like everything else. Great art takes time,and it often does not appeal to the majority of people. He deserves the standing ovation he got at Cannes.