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Not really enough support to be considered a theory, but here's a thought I had on the Thing in the Box. Since most people seem to agree that its body was female, it occurred to me that the head might be male. This would be a direct inversion of the female head and male body found in Ruth's apartment. Seems like the mystical union of opposites, yin and yang, are important to that crime scene, so perhaps it was to create or summon something such as what appeared in the box.
That was exactly what I was thinking. That Ruth was murdered so her body could be used as some sort of entry for the creature into our world (via the glass box.)
I've read some theories that it's the body of Ruth absinthe head of whoever body was in the bed with Ruth. No idea is there is any basis for this but thought it was an interesting theory.
What attacked the couple that came out of the glass box? It looked similar to the evolved arm? Did it to you?
I think the arm's "head" resembled it's head, but I suspect this is a kind of drone entity created by the arm which it uses to do it's evil bidding. The Arm is surely rooted to the lodge? However it certainly moved and slashed like the arm did when it confronted Cooper after he experienced clear vision of the split between the lodge and the conscious world. When it says "NON-EXISTENT" it sounded threatened like it was aware it was losing its grip on Cooper's subordinance.
- That's fascinating! I had been struggling a lot with the murder investigation story arc but your observed parallel is too good to ignore. It stands to reason given the Principal's insistence on only visiting Ruth in dreams and the body-borrowing theme. The brief appearance of the nightmare tramp (Mulholland Dr) in the prison scene was a big clue as well. It was shown to desert the Principal once it was done with him before "entering" Booper to slay the wife.
In episode 3, the blind woman moves her hands like they were sharp sword in a way that seems she wants to warn Cooper of something.
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Not only that, but the exact same "shing" sound effect is heard when she moves her arms as when the couple is being shredded. Did anyone else pick up on that sound?
Yes! The same sound is also made by The Arm when it confronted Cooper before he fell through the lodge floor. This sound has come to represent stages of awakening to me. Yes I think the death of the couple is connected to Coopers awakening. .. but more on that in another post
That murderous apparition's actions almost exactly mirrored Laura elevating out of the lodge and she even shot forward - also it had boobs. Clearly, the thing in the box had boobs, they looked like Laura's too, just saying. The scream is the same too.
If you watched the Laura/coop scene and the box/murder scene side by side I think they mirror each other, Laura's movements that is.
Her freakin face comes off and light glows out - i think she holds the power over all this mess. Can come and go as she pleases.....maybe she was protecting coop from getting trapped in the box by murdering the captors, giving him escape.
Come and go as she pleases? It was likely Bob that pulled her away, realizing she was helping Coop to know how to get out.
The scream is the same? It is Tracy screaming that this thing is coming at them.
Bob or something sent Coop out of the glass box & on to the "purple room" ( as some people call it ) to prevent him getting back into our world.
Just rewatching Episode 3 and in line with some previous comments, if you pause in the scene where "Mother" is coming to the place with "American Girl", the image with the thudding/banging noises looks like the thing from the glass box except if you imagine it contorted in the same way that Cooper is coming out of the electricity socket - so Mother might well be that thing that killed the couple - the timeline might fit too since Cooper then gets out of that place, maybe followed by "Mother" just like in Episode 1 timeline where he appears first, followed by the "creature" of sorts 🙂
No the timeline for that doesn't work. The banging started when the blind woman was there, and she indicated with her cutting sounds that the butcher demon was in the Earth dimension on the other side of socket 3 during the same time that the banging on the door was happening. If the butcher demon was the one banging on the door, there would have been no reason for the blind woman to stop Cooper from going into socket 3.
What attacked the couple that came out of the glass box? It looked similar to the evolved arm? Did it to you?
I think the arm's "head" resembled it's head, but I suspect this is a kind of drone entity created by the arm which it uses to do it's evil bidding. The Arm is surely rooted to the lodge? However it certainly moved and slashed like the arm did when it confronted Cooper after he experienced clear vision of the split between the lodge and the conscious world. When it says "NON-EXISTENT" it sounded threatened like it was aware it was losing its grip on Cooper's subordinance.
It's not necessarily that the dopple Arm is rooted in the lodge, it's more that spirits aren't allowed to kill anything living within the lodge unless they break the rules, because the lodge is a place for spirits to be assigned to whatever realm they are suppose to go. Cooper was not dead, but not suppose to be in the lodge either, though it was clear that he had no intentions of breaking any rules. Therefore, the dopple arm tricked him into exiting the lodge into the free spirit realm where he was killable since the rules no longer applied. There, the dopple arm may have easily been free to kill him in its true or alternate form, or any other evil entity could have if it found him. Luckily there are also freely wandering good spirits as well.
Thematic, this season has been pretty heavy on violence against women.
So, I think the creature in the box is female. Bob's or Bobbina's spirit getting revenge?
Indeed. But if you look back, the first 2 seasons and FWWM were incredibly heavy on the violence toward and exploitation of women.
Bobbina - LOL
There may be some "glass box" influence on DL from the original Outer Limits' first episode "The Galaxy Being" in which a scientist brings a life form to earth through a glass box in his lab....the creature even shakes in a manner similar to Lynch's. Will research and return...
Update: "Galaxy Being"-Outer Limits influence on DL: Not much in the way of clues, but the Galaxy Being does break the glass and escape at 29m:26s in the episode:
Notice the massive amount electric wiring. The theme that electricity is somehow directly related to the Black Lodge should be obvious to all of us now. The poles, the wiring, and of course the ELECTRIC BUZZING. "listen to the sounds"-the Giant to Coop
I think I can piece together what happened....
Great post (I shortened it a LOT in the quote though). I appreciate the thought that went into it and I really enjoyed reading it.
Thank you!
Any ideas why there was no image of Coop recorded on the cameras?
Maybe because he is somewhere between existence and non existence at that time until ch.3
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