Posted by: PhillJeffriesTP

In episode 3, the blind woman moves her hands like they were sharp sword in a way that seems she wants to warn Cooper of something.

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Not only that, but the exact same "shing" sound effect is heard when she moves her arms as when the couple is being shredded. Did anyone else pick up on that sound?

Any ideas why there was no image of Coop recorded on the cameras?

Is this Thing on, tap tap tap . 

Is it bad coop aka bob aka evil ... 

That murderous apparition's actions almost exactly mirrored Laura elevating out of the lodge and she even shot forward  - also it had boobs.  Clearly, the thing in the box had boobs, they looked like Laura's too, just saying.   The scream is the same too. 

If you watched the Laura/coop scene and the box/murder scene side by side I think they mirror each other, Laura's movements that is. 

Her freakin face comes off and  light glows out - i think she holds the power over all this mess.  Can come and go as she pleases.....maybe she was protecting coop from getting trapped in the box by murdering the captors, giving him escape.   

I wonder if the glass box operation is carry over from research that Windom Earle was doing. My reason to suspect is there's lots of surveillance AND next to Sam's loveseat is a bonsai tree. So maybe Earle set up the program under a false name with an endowment to keep it running for some thirty years and there's someone operating the project remotely. Not sure who is cataloging or monitoring the cameras, but they certainly know when one is ready to swap out memory cards. 

I too believe whatever attacked Sam and Tracey was "mother" which pursued Cooper. It had some feminine biological characteristics, and it arrived in the glass box after Cooper did. 

My feeling is that all this ties in with the Project Blue Book stuff, but also the whole Jack Parsons/Crowley demonic stuff that they talk about in SECRET HISTORY. One of the things Parsons tries to do in that is conjure up a demon using sex magick. But the other thing Parsons/Crowley talks about is the whole 'Whore of Babylon' idea. The untamed female spirit etc etc. Interestingly, in all the Crowley texts, she's referred to as 'The Great Mother' or 'The Mother of Abominations'...and we all know that 'Mother' is trying to get Coop in Episode 3.  I also wonder if the 'box' is meant to be some sort of Orgone Collector...from all that weird Wilhelm Reich sub-set of pseudo science? That seems v Twin Peaks! 

After carefully rewatching the scene I'm pretty sure the creature was evolving inside the Box. First it had female body in long dress even, alien-ish head with eyes, then the eyes disapeared, the mouth became exactly like the Arm's one, the trunk was naked with more male figure but without genitals.

Also I think about the old phrase of MFAP and the Arm/Tree: And I sound like this. Evolved Arm makes some munching sound, the same as creature from the Box when it litterally devours the young couple.

So maybe we have the ultimate form of evolved Arm?

The steps were: Mike's arm- dwarf- nervous system of tall human being- creature in the Box. But inside this special box the later stages progressed much more quickly. 

Also with this brutal murder of two accidental people it looks like it is much more evil now. Was MFAP actually bad? He was Black Lodge resident of course, feeding on garmonbozia but wasn't he intending to help Cooper?

Not really enough support to be considered a theory, but here's a thought I had on the Thing in the Box. Since most people seem to agree that its body was female, it occurred to me that the head might be male. This would be a direct inversion of the female head and male body found in Ruth's apartment. Seems like the mystical union of opposites, yin and yang, are important to that crime scene, so perhaps it was to create or summon something such as what appeared in the box.

My current line of thought is that this series will be heavily influenced on multi-dimensional worlds. This is hinted at in the Secret History book. And we've already determined that the scene with Nixon and the alien creature closely matches this scene. 

I also like the idea that the building belongs to a shadowy person/organisation trying to learn more/study these other dimensions or beings. 

Personally I think we're reading too much into it with the whole boobs thing, therefore it must be a girl - this is a multidimensional being, why should it confirm to gender stereotypes? That it is so evil and malevolent (the book also discusses the fear Milford senses just by being in its presence), makes me think that BOB is but a spirit that lives off evil - a lesser spirit of the lodge - but this creature is the real deal of evil, one that will give us real cause for fear. Perhaps, it is the cause of all fear in the universe and the physical embodiment of it. And it may not even come from a "lodge". So if this is the case, I am expecting some very, very scary Lynchian horror scenes in this series. 

( original TP ) "dream about a glass box" - no, have seen original TP many many times, does not sound familiar.

Some of the theories being thrown around that ignore canon of TP & FWWM:
"Better to listen than to talk" - the Giant

Posted by: Karen Paynter

Some of the theories being thrown around that ignore canon of TP & FWWM:
"Better to listen than to talk" - the Giant

Cmon, it's a discussion forum. We're going to talk about whatever we please, it's all in good fun. Don't try to shut down one of the top questions of the new season

The point is PAY ATTENTION, not attempting to shut down discussion.

I think I can piece together what happened. By the way, can anyone read lips? The breathing of the blind woman is indistinct, but it's possible she's still mouthing something coherent as someone without a voice would. The botched stitching on her eyes suggests she use to have all her senses, but was perhaps punished as is foreshadowed. 

The first thing to remember is that BOB is the head demon in Cooper's part of the black lodge. It is not clear if BOB makes up any rules, but based on the last episode of season 2, he at least enforces them.

The evil forces of the black lodge are collaborating within the confines of the rules so that Cooper's doppleganger doesn't get pulled in to the lodge in time, which relates to what the new Arm has said.

The arm has evolved, having use to be maleficent, but has continuously made efforts to be more good, desiring to be whole with Mike again more than anything else. Like Mike, it has in its own way repented or made efforts to be good and follow in Mike's footsteps.

The good Arm tells good Cooper when the black lodge is scheduled to pull his dopplerganger back in, 2:53. However, one must remember that the good Arm also warns that good Cooper can only leave once his doppleganger is back inside, as per some odd Lynch rule of the spirit plane. 

When good Cooper wanders through the lodge, he encounters the good Arm's doppleganger, the coil that it shed which now takes its place as a maleficent being. This of course is on par with the common theme of duality and give and take. 

Beings within the lodge don't seem to be allowed to have more power than BOB or be able to kill anyone without a direct provocation, otherwise they would not be in balance. So the Doppleganger, pretending to be a statue, lures Cooper to an area where it can cast Cooper out. For the dopple Arm, this is a smart move, because if Cooper tries to escape, he will either make a wrong move in his misunderstanding of the spirit plane, escape too soon, or, since he is outside of the walls of the lodge and in the free spirit plane, he is killable. 

Cooper teleports to the glass box after being cast away from the lodge, he is now in the free spirit plane rather than the confines of the lodge. Based on the timing of the scenes, it seems very reasonable to suggest that Cooper appears in the glass box while the horny guy in charge of watching it is off talking with his girlfriend. For reasons still unknown, whether it was by Cooper's own will, the inherent mechanics of the spirit plane, or a benevolent being, good Cooper was expelled from the glass box. 

In terms of timing, very shortly after Cooper is expelled from the box, the figure that follows is a shadowy and maleficent apparition inside. People suggest it mutates, starting with eyes and a gender and losing them, but personally I think it's just the trick of the camera combined with the chaos of the movements in the box that make it appear as such, no different than when people claim there's faces on Mars.

One distinct feature is it's mouth, one giant gaping hole along with a round head, with no eyes (by the time it attacks at least), just like the Arm and its doppleganger. The evil apparition initially appears uninterested in the couple in the room, as if it is searching for something, scouring the box. 

This pivotal piece of information, combined with what is previously mentioned, suggests that it could be a manifestation of the dopple Arm or at least one of its cohorts, chasing good Cooper to kill him in time and tip the balance of the world in favor of evil, which also follows cohesively with the following scenes in episode 3. It's butchering of the couple only enforces its evil intentions. It is possible that evil being seeks to annihilate anything good, pleasurable or living and thus kills the couple, or is super pissed off that it didn't find Cooper after it thought it would catch him, but either way, when you piece together all the events, how danger continuously catches up to Cooper, it's clear something is chasing him from dimension to dimension.

So, episode 3 starts with good Cooper falling through space, which makes some sense because Earth as it is now is already in space. If you simply stood where you were now, and took away the Earth, you'd see a mostly empty but starry sky, suggesting it is in fact parallel to the Earth plane at certain points, but clearly warped. There is no "Earth" in the spirit plane, so all that's seen is empty space, faint glimmers of light in an otherwise overwhelming void of blackness.

Cooper luckily (but maybe not coincidentally?) falls into a rather peculiar metal box inhabited by a being in the form of a women whose sense of sight has been taken away in addition to her voice, but appears to retain her ability to hear and feel.

Cooper and the "woman" hear a loud knocking at the door, which is likely either the dopple Arm or its cohort(s) trying to get at Cooper after chasing him. Cooper is lucky that the woman inside is benevolent as she keeps Cooper from harm. 

Cooper sees a point in the spirit plane that intersects with the Earth plane flicker into sight. However, the women who perhaps has senses beyond mere sight, pulls Cooper away from the socket and emulates the same blade cutting sounds that you heard as the couple was getting butchered in episode one, very clearly suggesting that evil apparition is right on the other side of that socket. This also makes sense in terms of timing, because Cooper appeared in the glass box only shortly before the couple started making out, and by the time Cooper fell into the metal space house, that's when the evil apparition started appearing in the glass box.

The knocking continues, and somehow the benevolent spirit knows exactly what to do. Perhaps, just as the evil spirits collaborate, so do the good ones. However, as one can see by from what seems to be an almost surgical injury with her eyes bridged over and her vocal chords cut, the woman is punished and further vanquished into space, a lower level, after doing Cooper a good deed and thus preserving a balance. The switch is clearly electrical, and she gave her existence or at least non-hellish living situation to change the switch from the bad butchering socket to the good socket that gives Cooper a chance to live. 

After the first woman is vanquished, another appears. This enforces the idea that the giant switch atop the metal house was in fact a switch to manually change sockets to specific points in Earth, a job that must be tediously maintained. This new woman is in good health, doesn't actually do much to help Cooper, but warns that her "mother" is coming, which many would infer to be the thing knocking at the door. 

Just rewatching Episode 3 and in line with some previous comments, if you pause in the scene where "Mother" is coming to the place with "American Girl", the image with the thudding/banging noises looks like the thing from the glass box except if you imagine it contorted in the same way that Cooper is coming out of the electricity socket - so Mother might well be that thing that killed the couple - the timeline might fit too since Cooper then gets out of that place, maybe followed by "Mother" just like in Episode 1 timeline where he appears first, followed by the "creature" of sorts 🙂