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Solving the Billy mystery

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Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Ok, ok, I'll stop questioning it.......

You better - or we'll "lodge" a complaint.

... I'll get me coat...

 
Posted : 26/10/2017 6:00 pm
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Posted by: Myn0k
Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Ok, ok, I'll stop questioning it.......

You better - or we'll "lodge" a complaint.

... I'll get me coat...

Careful or I see a ban hammer in your future. 

 
Posted : 26/10/2017 8:18 pm
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Ok, ok, I'll stop questioning it.......maybe.  I still feel like something is missing, out of place or off kilter about this particular detail of the subject, but I'll let it go......for now........

Where's that chart graph thingy we've been waiting for?!  😀

The thing I've always found the most perplexing is how the customers change in the diner before and after Bing asks if anyone has seen Billy. Could it be Twin Peaks and Odessa universes foreshadowing; we catch a glimose of Odessa uni without knowing it? 

 
Posted : 26/10/2017 8:22 pm
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Could very well be. That's a great theory!

 
Posted : 26/10/2017 8:34 pm
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I'm not sure enough has been made of the Bing/Billy connection. Riley Lynch played at the Roadhouse with Trouble, but is only credited as Riley Lynch, member of Trouble. 

Audrey says that Billy hated the Roadhouse, but still wants (and doesn't want) to go there to look for Billy.

If we presume that the Chuck whom Audrey mentions is Renee's husband Chuck, those are both characters we see at the Roadhouse, along with Chuck's friend Skipper.

Megan (Shane Lynch - no relation) tells Sophie (Emily Stofle - David Lynch's wife) about how she and her mother Tina saw Billy, as they sit in the booth at the Roadhouse.

When Audrey finally arrives, Eddie Vedder is singing, but he is introduced by the MC as Edward Louis Severson. That is his actual birth name, but the credits have it listed as the name of the character played by Eddie Vedder.

So, it seems to me that the Roadhouse is central to all of this, as is a blurring of the lines between the fictional world of Twin Peaks and our own (or, a fictional version of our own or whatever). Audrey is caught between the two, until that last moment, when I think she breaks out into a kind of blank world where she is an actor without a story.

I know I have said a lot of those things elsewhere, even in this thread, but I am just kind of putting my thoughts together as I type right now. I feel like my thinking keeps coming up just short of having some sort of revelation about Billy, but maybe that is the point.

 
Posted : 26/10/2017 9:06 pm
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Ok, ok, I'll stop questioning it.......maybe.  I still feel like something is missing, out of place or off kilter about this particular detail of the subject, but I'll let it go......for now........

Where's that chart graph thingy we've been waiting for?!  😀

The thing I've always found the most perplexing is how the customers change in the diner before and after Bing asks if anyone has seen Billy. Could it be Twin Peaks and Odessa universes foreshadowing; we catch a glimose of Odessa uni without knowing it? 

Maybe Billy doesn't exist in one of the universes? He doesn't exist in ours - we are given just a character's name without an actor...

 
Posted : 26/10/2017 9:08 pm
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I feel the same. Like the missing link is right there in front of us, so obvious that we can't see it.

Whooooooooo arrrrrrrre yoooooooou. Billy/Bing/Uncle?

 
Posted : 26/10/2017 9:10 pm
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Maybe all we have to do is ask, "has anyone seen Billy?" or talk about him and then ripples or reality shifts. 

I like the thought of Billy not existing in one of the universes (or is unknown to TP folks in one of them). No one in the diner seemed to know who Billy was after the question was asked. 

 
Posted : 26/10/2017 9:18 pm
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Or maybe, just maybe we should be asking "has anyone seen Bing?" The clue is in the the CC typo......hmmmmmmm? 😉

 
Posted : 26/10/2017 9:28 pm
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Or maybe, just maybe we should be asking "has anyone seen Bing?" The clue is in the the CC typo......hmmmmmmm? 😉

Bing/Billy Tomato/tomata

 
Posted : 26/10/2017 9:35 pm
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BOB

 
Posted : 26/10/2017 9:42 pm
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Posted by: Caoimhín Shirey
Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Ok, ok, I'll stop questioning it.......maybe.  I still feel like something is missing, out of place or off kilter about this particular detail of the subject, but I'll let it go......for now........

Where's that chart graph thingy we've been waiting for?!  😀

The thing I've always found the most perplexing is how the customers change in the diner before and after Bing asks if anyone has seen Billy. Could it be Twin Peaks and Odessa universes foreshadowing; we catch a glimose of Odessa uni without knowing it? 

I went back and looked closely at the diner patron changes.  I think it isn't a sudden swap.  I think it's more accurate to say that it's more of jump in time.  I say that because there is one guy (older, Dude-like sweater) who is dining in the first camera angle, then when we switch he's still in the building, but he's near the door and is paying or has just paid or getting his coat or something. 

There's a maroon shirt girl with a milkshake to the left during the first camera angle.  When we change twice and get back to that angle she's still there, but has switched seats and now has her back to us.  Still has her shake tho. 

And here's the kicker for me - because all that could be about not hiring 60 extras for one minute of film (like that would stop Lynch...), but if you look in the display cases, after we jump camera angles there is definitely one pie or cake or pastry or something gone when we switch back. 

I think we're just seeing leaps in time.  And maybe not even mysterious leaps.  They just aren't immediate sequential shots that we might have expected.  There's a waitress we have never met and she's there on one angle, and across the store in another. 

Gripping stuff, I know.

(If you save the image and open it you can zoom in a bit.)

 
Posted : 26/10/2017 10:01 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfieYEcxMnI  

 
Posted : 27/10/2017 8:09 am
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Posted by: Lucas Bracci

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfieYEcxMnI  

Beyond awesome Lucas!

What year is this??

 
Posted : 27/10/2017 9:09 am
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Posted by: OctavioLemos

Beyond awesome Lucas!

What year is this??

These Bing Crosby Shows for Chesterfield (cigarettes !) were aired in october 1950.

The record was issued maybe 10 or 20 years later.

The Bing Crosby Show was broadcasted until 1956, so it was probably something listened by the young David Lynch.

BTW, Bing, Bob and Judy are singing "Goodnight Irene" in the Youtube link.  

 
Posted : 27/10/2017 10:27 am
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