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Your English is superb! And you are more than entitled to have your own opinions despite what the "Have you ever seen a David Lynch film"/"you just don't understand David" brigade will tell you.
and that's why we'll just skip this episode while binge watching in the future
Who is this "We"? Please don't presume to speak for anyone other than yourself.
You know a TV series or a movie is really good when you can watch it over and over again, even when you know how it will end. Sure, the original TP had some really corky bits you would want to fast forward faster than anything, but not 80 percent of an entire episode.
But again, that's just my own take on it. And yes, SamXTherapy, I meant myself and maybe the rest of the "Episode 8 deniers"
To answer your question: No I wouldn't like it if the remaining episodes are this way. But I do like it that he subverts expectations and has the balls to make an episode like this. It's called dynamics Something a director like Michael Bay doesn't understand). David Lynch ebbs and flows with the laws of nature. He's earned the trust of his audience enough to take risks. The telling of the origin stories of the lodges and BOB are abstract and subjective because the lodges are abstract and subjective. It may not be your taste but I thought it was brilliant.
Everyone 's entitled to their own opinions and tastes. Then so am I, and for me the body with the wrong head is just a tiny part of something much bigger, of which we had a glimpse on part 8. And honestly, if we were given objective facts about everything, then what would be the point of having 10 more episodes? Remember season 2 just after Leland was caught and died? Well, I'm glad we're in a much different situation now. By the way, this is the one episode I'd make sure not to skip upon rewatching the whole thing.
I've watched it 3 times now and it gets better with every viewing. Will not be skipping during binging and I also think it will make more sense while binging the entire show. It was almost like an interlude for the remaining show.
What if I told you that the remaining 10 episodes will be just like episode 8?! Would you still be just as thrilled? Would you still call it "art in it's purest form"? We wouldn't get any answers to anything we've seen so far. We would leave everything behind. We would just watch explosions, clouds, water, and crazy shit that no one but David Lynch gets. Would you still call it a masterpiece? Would you still praise it? I wonder. How much of this can we take?
I can overlook all that crazy shit I witnessed today in ep. 8, if I knew there wouldn't be any more episodes like it. But I don't. And that's what I fear the most. I wouldn't be at all surprised if for example the last two episodes are just filled with new weird and crazy scenes all over again.
Episode 8 actually made me angry. I don't know where Lynch is going with this. And where is Mark Frost? What was his contribution to todays episode? Did David Lynch ask for an episode all for himself? Looks like it.
What we witnessed today had no cinematic storytelling to it at all. It was just too weird. Yes, some of you say it's art, and I get that, but I'm not in an art gallery. I'm watching a TV show. I'm watching it to get entertained. Not to get confused or to start making my own interpretations. But maybe I'm one of a kind these days.
I just hope this was an one time thing. No more of this, please. I would gladly watch Dougie's drawn out struggles anytime over this.
Episode 8 didn't make us anymore wiser about anything. It was just plain weird, and again, stole valuable screen time. Yes, I know David Lynch is trying to tell us the story in "his way", but surely he must have known that this episode was way out there.
Episode 8 could just as well been episode 1, but it wasn't. Because if they had shown this episode during the Film Festival in Cannes, as the first episode, I don't think the audiance would have praised it, and I think David Lynch knew that. He knows this episode was too weird for the masses. But how could Showtime let this pass? Probably because the executive at Showtime had already fallen asleep watching episode 1-7.
So, there was my rant. Having said this, I really, really hope we are getting back to the main plotlines in episode 9.
It is really not important if you watch it to be entertained.
As every masterpiece, it's one of a kind.
That being said, however, as per every Lynch's work, the final goal is not getting answers but enjoying the journey and the emotional adventure.
Trying to overcome this and get direct, proper answers is useless with Lynch. That's why he's the undisputed master.
Haha! This post cracks me up!
Lynch and this episode has definitely got people scared.......He did a spectacular job!
I don't (with respect! No trolling here!) think your premise is valid. Would I want 10 more hours like the last one? Nope. Does that make me hate or feel angry about that last hour? Nope.
I love chocolate. Would I want nothing but chocolate? Nope.
I think there is VERY LITTLE CHANCE we are going to see 10 more hours that are that abstract. I love that, in the context of this "18-course meal" we are feasting on, he gave us one course that REALLY challenged out palates, and made us think about the whole idea of "food" (just to torture my metaphor) differently.
I do suspect, however, that what we just saw IS the "main plotline", and that everything we have seen from the pilot on is sub-plot.
I am skipping most of NIN on my follow-up viewings.
To me S3 Ep8 is pivotal to the plot, similar to how S1 Ep3 changed what everyone thought TP was about. And when a plot pivots like that I'm pretty sure it's usually what the writer has in mind, not the director, so unlike the OP I think Ep8 is all Mark Frost! Just happens to be directed by a really inspired director.
As I watched this episode, besides being mesmerised and remembering what tripping on mushrooms was like, I knew this episode was going to generate a lot of wonderful discussion. One of the many things I admire about David Lynch is his staunch reluctance to explain what his films are about, stating that if he has to explain the piece beyond what is there on the screen, then it hasn't done its job. I also feel that this episode gave us a great deal of valuable backstory. Sure there are more questions, but given this is an 18 hour film, I'm comfortable to be taken wherever it darn well likes. For me, like, say Eraserhead, or Inland Empire especially, which someone recently described as a three hour panic attack during which one has to relinquish one's quest for immediate understanding of what is happening and yield to being anchorless, out of control, challenged, enraged even, but also countered by awe, and wonder.
All art, especially abstract art can only be whatever it is to us. Take Mark Rothko's work, some people have allegedly stood in front of his works and cried like babies. While some might have the same reaction, empathise with that person, no two experiences will ever be exactly the same. Even my opinion on that is subjective.
There is some merit in criticising a 40 minute guitar or drum solo, saying that it's, pardon me, masturbatory. That said if the artist feels a 10 minute sequence representing their feeling about the enormity of a nuclear explosion while hoping to convey the origins of the Black Lodge or perhaps how the two worlds that one chants out between were enabled, then given that we are 8 of 18 in, I for one, am happy to be taken wherever it is felt it needs to go to give us their interpretation of what happened before, during and / or after what went 'before' in terms of the two series, the books and FWWM.
I don't expect as said in this thread opener however that we will remain in this 'nether' world and everything will converge on Twin Peaks as the return nears to its close. There will be threads left dangling, others tied up, and some somewhere in between. There has been too much setup for there not to be payoff off down the track, rather like holding a camera shot on the gun (a friend) hidden in a glove compartment, there's arguably poor continuity if one doesn't see it used. It's misleading one audience, which is sometimes intentional, but generally speaking not. The gun did get used, but the firing pin seems like it got removed, as EvilCoop checked there were bullets in the barrel.
So that's my two cents of subjectiveness.
Do we really have to wait two weeks before our dealer turns up again in our neighbourhood with part 9? 🙂
To me S3 Ep8 is pivotal to the plot, similar to how S1 Ep3 changed what everyone thought TP was about. And when a plot pivots like that I'm pretty sure it's usually what the writer has in mind, not the director, so unlike the OP I think Ep8 is all Mark Frost! Just happens to be directed by a really inspired director.
They co-wrote the script.
I guess that what I was trying to say was that I felt like somebody just stole all my candy after watching this episode.
I guess episode 8 was just too abstract for me.
What makes me wanna rewatch something, is good acting, great dialogue, good interaction between the actors, etc. Not just visuals/visual effects open for interpretation. I want something more.
I'm hoping for more traditional storytelling in the episodes to come.
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