I really wonder how many college analysis papers and master's theses are about TPTR......
I wrote a college paper called "Blipverts and Icons" based on Max Headroom.
This theory reminds me of the show "the prisoner" where they try to get the main character to break by inserting other characters into his dream. The episode is called a,b,c
i would give it a watch if you haven't already seen it , top class stuff
I really wonder how many college analysis papers and master's theses are about TPTR......
I wrote a college paper called "Blipverts and Icons" based on Max Headroom.
That's awesome! 😀
Thanks for the reply again! I see completely what you are saying, and I freely admit the whole theory is probably rubbish, or at the very least like many others filled with more plotholes that solid ground. In the interest of discussion, and making this theory as tight as it can be before moving on to the next theory, let me try and answer this as if the theory was correct and see how it goes! : )
irrelevant to display a body disappearing to your audience...
I am not sure about this either way. Assuming the theory is correct, the sequence is a simulation to manipulate Dale's emotions. They show that his "rescue" was successful, inducing an emotional high, then abruptly take Laura away inducing an emotional low. This build up/tear down technique to create a state of emotional vulnerability is common in both brainwashing techniques and domestic violence. There is even a pick-up version of it that uses positives (compliments)/negatives (insults).
The sequence we see, with the body disappearing, is not literal. It is an artistic interpretation designed to hit at an emotional level for our benefit as an audience. What we feel is similar to what Dale experiences, but what we see is not necessarily what he sees. Rather than being irrelevant, we could argue that the scenes were chosen exactly for the warmth and nostalgia they would generate in the audience. As an audience we watch Dale rescue Laura, and the clips from The Pilot episode show us it was a success. We see the body disappear, we see Catherine, Pete , Josie and the lake at peace. We think: "Wow! Dale saved Laura! Her murder was erased! They are together! Wow - that's the pilot episode! There's Pete! And Josie! I thought she wasn't even in this season! And the murder didn't even happen! So anything is possible! Oh my god, this is f***** amazing!".
Then abruptly and without warning Laura vanishes with that horrible, horrible scream and we do not know why. We see Sarah Palmer freak out and attack her picture, which does not break, and we are confused. We think "Oh my god! What just happened? Where did Laura go? Did someone take her? Is she dead? Is her mum Judy? WTF just happened? Is Cooper gonna rescue her? We need to find her and save her!"
However clumsy it may have been executed, it does seem like the scene may have been purposefully constructed to take us through the same emotional beats as Dale - first emotional highs at the rescue, then emotional lows at the end. And, arguably, that is exactly what we go through - with a whole extra side order of confusion!
if you say Cooper doesn't know much about stuff, I'd say "no way"
Don't get me wrong because I love Cooper and wish the "old" Cooper had been in this season much longer that he actually was, but many parts of the early episodes, and especially the final Odessa/Twin Peaks scenes show us that there is a lot of stuff Cooper doesn't know. The jumping-off point for this theory was asking what has been happening to Dale for 25 years as a prisoner in the Red Room? What happens to real-world POW's, or kidnapping cases, when they are held in captivity for 25 years? What has happened to his mind? What treatment has he received from the evil spirits? Why do they suddenly decide to release him now? What is their motivation for releasing him now? None of that was meant to distract from Cooper in any way, it was just trying to get into Frost & Lynch's mindset when they started writing and seeing what questions and storylines naturally come out of it. Dale being mentally damaged during captivity and manipulated by the enemy to perform some task is a natural storyline to consider given the real-world cases of this happening, not to mention Stockholm Syndrome etc etc. The flipside to what you said about Cooper is that if he walks out after 25 years in prison with no damage, and the evil spirits have no ulterior motive in his release, then they are not really very evil are they? Perhaps that is the answer - the Red Room spirits such as Mike, The Arm etc are just not that evil.
not the top management staff
This is true, but they are the only spirits they have seen. I also wonder if a gang of evil spirits would even have a hierarchical structure? I imagine some spirits would be stronger and weaker than others so some natural order may exist, but there must be so much rivalry, backstabbing, treachery. I guess both ways of thinking about it is putting into human terms things that are clearly not human!
Thanks again for the thoughtful replies and taking time to discuss everything!
This theory reminds me of the show "the prisoner" where they try to get the main character to break by inserting other characters into his dream. The episode is called a,b,c
i would give it a watch if you haven't already seen it , top class stuff
I love The Prisoner! I think that show was also influenced by MK ULTRA maybe? I will be interested to see if MK ULTRA or related material turns up in the Final Dossier!
In a way this theory is fundamentally about dreams, identity, perception of reality, freewill and how vulnerable that is to control from outside influences. It's quite similar in tone to other elements explored in Season 3: Dougie, Audrey, the demon inside Sarah Palmer etc etc
Carrie Page is dead yet lives, as a zombie in Odessa, who had to be brought back to Twin Peaks to remember what happened, her death, destruction of dreams. What happened in Twin Peaks cannot be ignored, Laura cannot live on in Odessa, its a travesty as Sarah Palmer knew all too well, which is why she killed that 'truck you', hated the new jerky, and then smashed Laura's picture when Cooper brought her back to live in Odessa....What happened in Twin Peaks is a genuine tragedy, which cannot ever be 'smoothed over'.....
MK ULTRA was a military program that is developed and is now more operational than ever, and there is nothing secret about it, all aspects of it we are intimately familiar with in everyday life....since what was basically a coup where rights are suspended under the threat of force, where protector role is then taken by those exploiting/creating 'threats'...which is then supposed to be mystified into some kind of wild cult or evil that we can barely know about or supposed to be scared of, then all fears coalesce into blind rage. This program, works seamlessly with Google, Facebook, the entire digital network, which is supposed to deliver us from the trouble of thinking, freedom etc., in some kind of magic trick, suspending all rights to implement it, dont have to worry about those old 'modern' things, freedom, thinking etc, the magic of the iPhone, etc. will save us all the trouble(something that can be seen in the deification of Steve Jobs, the sort of cult created around that)....just chaos to be expected here, and tyranny, while everyone is more blind as it fails....also part of it is the 'alt'(whatever, 'fake news', etc.), this is about controlling the negative backlash to the implementation of that network, making it blind rage and obscenity that relies on a 'protector', who simply gets people scared of each other then directs the blind rage into self-destruction of the same rabble that loves the 'father' protection figure that delivers them from the trouble of having right, freedom, etc......basically the protectors owning thinking and conversation, using force beyond law, controlling brains, etc., by private billionaires and the 'expert' programmers, relying on computers to control everything....in other words, slavery, not freedom....,
In other words, this is a place where Twin Peaks hits on a truth in reality, basically where things are headed to make people into something like 'Carrie Page' and 'Odessa life', forgetting about freedom, dreams, etc., and just rotting on in the slow decay of Odessa and truck drivers/woodsmen, 'sleepwalking' of Twin Peaks......., 'being dead but still being alive', etc....this is why Laura had to return to Twin Peaks, what was lost there, things cannot just 'go on' without coming to terms with this.....Odessa life, and outbursts of blind rage(killing the guy in the house, stupid truck drivers at the cafe, etc.) that have no idea what is going on, how to deal with it, but directed by digital network and a mystified/blind 'nature',.....slow decay and outbursts of 'natural disaster'.....in other words, Carrie Page is not some secret conspiracy or military program hidden in the dark, it is the default nature, the 'techno future', etc....signs of which we see today in the absurdity and incomprehensibility of everyday life, Odessa life, nothing more secret about this, no 'conspiracy' or MK ULTRA, special thing that spooks us, etc., just the bland slow decay we see emerging everywhere as 'everyday' Odessa life, and this is the real horror, plodding away blindly on the iPhone, life passes, nothing happens, besides the occasional disaster which is not allowed to be thought or dealt with, but merely 'smoothed over' by digital network/iPhone immediately, then back to slow decay, another crisis, blind rage, 'smoothed over' in 'viva las vegas', repeat forever, etc.........return of Laura to Twin Peaks is a return to dreams, and the pain that is ignored, disrupting this tyranny of life without dreams....best ending there....in other words, this gives a new twist to the 'shes gone' in episode 8, Mr. C and billionaires are still relying on some kind of positive salvation, that they will magically hit some 'fact' that will redeem the horror they are involved in.....there is nothing there but waste of life and death, horror of Odessa life......now at the ending back to 'shes gone', return of pain and dreams....proper human life given the space to start again, dreams and antagonism, disgust with Odessa life turns to dreams of something better, Laura before she was destroyed, etc...
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