As others have said, a television series isn't created by one man, alone in a room. If there was 'syncing' going on, then there'd be people involved with 'syncing' it, and so a producer might actually have a notion whether or not any of that took place.
Theorizing can be fun and harmless if you take it for what it is. And I also realize that some of what's going on here are people trying to outdo one another with progressively wilder theories.
However, when people involved with the show say there's nothing to a theory and one dismisses that explanation out of hand, perhaps that's going down a mental rabbit hole that isn't entirely healthy?
If you outright deny the possibility that it's all just apophenia relating to source material of an overly 'open' nature, then I think you've stopped being a theorist and begun creating your own alternative reality.
Yet you ignore that David Lynch always has a closed-set approach and very little ever leaks out about what he intends, because not many people involved know about it. Kyle M was the only actor that knew what was going on (with the plot) and he will say nothing because he respects DL's visions.
Also not everyone in the whole team would have been privy to what he actually intended, so until Lynch himself (seeing as he helped edit and do the sound design), says that the scenes that line up were all accidental, then the possibility is left open that it was deliberate because others may not have known what he had planned to do.
Until then, it's a valid theory.
Wow, what kind of shit did I just accidentally stir up?
One thing I do agree with, though, is that Executive Producer does seem to be an extremely varied role. Sometimes they are just key writers (e.g. Mark Frost's role). Sometimes they are heavily involved with the practical side of the project. Other times they contribute very little or even nothing at all, but are only credited because they were a key part of a previous incarnation of the show. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that was the case with Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant when The Office was adapted for the US. Yes, they wrote one episode of the American series, and Stephen directed one episode, but apart from that I think they just let the Americans do their own thing once the show was up and running.
From what Sabrina said, it sounds like she was heavily involved with the project, and even said she watched the first edited footage with David. She says the sync thing was news to her. I suspect she would be more likely to know about it than any of us.
I could be wrong, though. David may have all kinds of secrets stuffed away in his head. For all we know, he might actually intend us to watch all the episodes at 1.5 speed, and is laughing at the idea that anyone would watch it at normal speed.
Another possibility is that it happened subconsciously. David may have subconsciously edited the episodes in that way. The subconscious mind is a very powerful thing, and people do tend to get into patterns when making stuff. It's possible he subconsciously got into a certain way of editing the episodes.
I can see a way through that would satisfy both sides of the argument. Try this one for size:
The statement that the episodes are not to be watched in sync doesn't mean one episode isn't a reflection of another. Perhaps they are meant to be watched sequentially, as broadcast, but while watching, being mindful that one episode may reflect another.
A sort of "As above, so below" approach that would work with the episodes being watched in sync, but not being necessary, or intended.
Anyhow, I'm undecided. There are convincing arguments both sides. I'm happy to wait and see, while keeping an eye on what people come up with when combining different episodes. I have to admit the idea of sync is fascinating in any case.
As others have said, a television series isn't created by one man, alone in a room. If there was 'syncing' going on, then there'd be people involved with 'syncing' it, and so a producer might actually have a notion whether or not any of that took place.
Theorizing can be fun and harmless if you take it for what it is. And I also realize that some of what's going on here are people trying to outdo one another with progressively wilder theories.
However, when people involved with the show say there's nothing to a theory and one dismisses that explanation out of hand, perhaps that's going down a mental rabbit hole that isn't entirely healthy?
If you outright deny the possibility that it's all just apophenia relating to source material of an overly 'open' nature, then I think you've stopped being a theorist and begun creating your own alternative reality.
Yet you ignore that David Lynch always has a closed-set approach and very little ever leaks out about what he intends, because not many people involved know about it. Kyle M was the only actor that knew what was going on (with the plot) and he will say nothing because he respects DL's visions.
Also not everyone in the whole team would have been privy to what he actually intended, so until Lynch himself (seeing as he helped edit and do the sound design), says that the scenes that line up were all accidental, then the possibility is left open that it was deliberate because others may not have known what he had planned to do.
Until then, it's a valid theory.
All I see going on is apophenia and confirmation bias. It's the same thing as the Wizard of Oz - Dark Side of the Moon urban legend.
I suspect that even if Lynch told you personally that it's bunk, you'd think he was lying and keeping the truth to himself.
As others have said, a television series isn't created by one man, alone in a room. If there was 'syncing' going on, then there'd be people involved with 'syncing' it, and so a producer might actually have a notion whether or not any of that took place.
Theorizing can be fun and harmless if you take it for what it is. And I also realize that some of what's going on here are people trying to outdo one another with progressively wilder theories.
However, when people involved with the show say there's nothing to a theory and one dismisses that explanation out of hand, perhaps that's going down a mental rabbit hole that isn't entirely healthy?
If you outright deny the possibility that it's all just apophenia relating to source material of an overly 'open' nature, then I think you've stopped being a theorist and begun creating your own alternative reality.
Word!
Please do a bit of reading around before posting; this has been covered multiple times already and we've already had pretty in-depth discussion about why Sabrina probably wouldn't know about sync.
No need to be rude.
You are avoiding the point, which is that executive producers don't have anything to do with the creative process, they look after the business side of things. I feel like I'm stuck in an infinite loop as well just trying to get you to accept that. I really don't understand why you have to go so hard over this. Are we really pissing you off this much with our theories?
I'm avoiding nothing. I don't need Wikipedia to tell me what her job and responsibilities are . She says herself. Are the theorists pissing me off? No. Coming into a thread to basically tell someone to stop bringing up that the sync theory has been debunked when it clearly has? That's going to get a response.
The sloppiness of the sound designer to not add the electricity sound effect to the ep 18 Lynch/Frost Productions logo was part of the happy coincidence. Thank goodness that guy is a hack! 🙂
Yes. Absolutely shocking and the Sound Designer should have been fired for that!
Only one problem.....
There could be any number of reasons why there is no sound there. There's a theory with the white coming up in different locations in that logo in different episodes. Maybe the sound changes too? I don't know. I haven't check. Unlike the sync theory, that theory hasn't been debunked. The main reason I think there's no sounds there? David Lynch wanted it that way.
Glad you cleared that up.
And I also realize that some of what's going on here are people trying to outdo one another with progressively wilder theories.
You really think so? =:-O
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This is a piece of an interview in Rolling Stone about The Return: Maybe he did sync it
You directed every episode. How was it directing 18 hours of TV?
I see it as a film – so it's an 18-hour film. It's like directing anything in cinema. It's exactly like working on a film.
But since it's television and released in hour-long increments, don't you have to think about the end of each hour?
No, you don't really. You divide it up.
This is a piece of an interview in Rolling Stone about The Return: Maybe he did sync it
You directed every episode. How was it directing 18 hours of TV?
I see it as a film – so it's an 18-hour film. It's like directing anything in cinema. It's exactly like working on a film.But since it's television and released in hour-long increments, don't you have to think about the end of each hour?
No, you don't really. You divide it up.
How does this lend itself to the idea he synced episodes? He saw it as 1 film. Not pieces to be moved around by the audience. He just divided it up without thinking about the end of each Episode.
Eh, I'm pretty sure you have a stricter idea of how the show should be consumed than Lynch himself does.
"Similarly, in these days of binging and streaming, he is O.K. with however you want to watch it. He even suggests, with a smile, that the best approach may be to view the parts out of order. “You know, the projectionist once in awhile would make a mistake and put reel four before reel two or something,” he says. “People still made sense of it.”
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/t-magazine/entertainment/david-lynch-twin-peaks.html
Maybe David Lynch didn't intend for it to actually be watched in sync, but just intended it to appear like it could be watched in sync. Maybe the whole point was to get us all thinking about it and discussing it?
Or perhaps it was just a TV series that's now over, and we're just trying to desperately cling on by finding different ways to watch it so that it make more sense? Come on, it's David Lynch! His stuff rarely makes complete sense.
You're trying to make sense of David Lynch by watching multiple episodes together? Are you sure you're not taking it all a bit too far? Are you absolutely sure it's not time to take a break and go and do something else?
Geez, it's only a crazy TV series made by some eccentric old guy...
Maybe David Lynch didn't intend for it to actually be watched in sync, but just intended it to appear like it could be watched in sync. Maybe the whole point was to get us all thinking about it and discussing it?
Or perhaps it was just a TV series that's now over, and we're just trying to desperately cling on by finding different ways to watch it so that it make more sense? Come on, it's David Lynch! His stuff rarely makes complete sense.
You're trying to make sense of David Lynch by watching multiple episodes together? Are you sure you're not taking it all a bit too far? Are you absolutely sure it's not time to take a break and go and do something else?
Geez, it's only a crazy TV series made by some eccentric old guy...
I think he sync only end of part 17 and 18. Then many think if end is synced all must be watch together. I don't get it when someone is writing to better watch everything together from beggining to end. It's that it because they are only looking for connections like we see Diane and Naido. But what about show ? Sounds don't fit at all. If we focus on clues only, maybe someone have a pleasure that he see Sherrif hat and another gut have that too. But film is not only video, sound is important to build atmosphere. Only end of ep17 and ep18 have this, have atmosphere.
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