I respect everyone's personal experience with 17 and 18, regardless of if I agree or not. My experience was somewhat the opposite....if 17 had been the end, I would have been somewhat let down...a character with a magic glove ending evil would not have done it for me. But, in the context of 18 I was fine with that. Having watched both again today, I am even more pleased and awed with the final 2 hours. As I wrote in another post - this was Maximum Lynch and I loved it all. Can I explain it all? Hell no - but that's fine for me..I take it on a macro level as good and evil in an eternal, infinite play with heroes and villains and victims throughout time.
I agree with Reggie. I was not crazy when we first met him, but now I must admit his role bothers me even more. I just found the whole, punch Bob to death, as kind of foolish. That was about the only time I laughed in the entire finale. Thinking to myself, you got to be kidding!
Something clicked for me earlier today about this.
Part 17 was the ending Lynch and Frost *had* to write. Things are 'solved'.
Part 18 was the ending Lynch and Frost wanted to write. Greater mysteries are revealed.
A commentary on what went down in season 2, perhaps?
But it wasn't solved, Coop could not undo Laura's fate to die in order to stop Bob using her body. Coop goes back into the BL and understands more, and is able to leave the way he originally was going to before the Arm's doppelganger stopped him.
Poor choice of words. 'Resolution' then.
Because the Mr. C and Bob narratives were resolved, and those were important to this season.
I respect everyone's personal experience with 17 and 18, regardless of if I agree or not. My experience was somewhat the opposite....if 17 had been the end, I would have been somewhat let down...a character with a magic glove ending evil would not have done it for me. But, in the context of 18 I was fine with that. Having watched both again today, I am even more pleased and awed with the final 2 hours. As I wrote in another post - this was Maximum Lynch and I loved it all. Can I explain it all? Hell no - but that's fine for me..I take it on a macro level as good and evil in an eternal, infinite play with heroes and villains and victims throughout time.
I agree with Reggie. I was not crazy when we first met him, but now I must admit his role bothers me even more. I just found the whole, punch Bob to death, as kind of foolish. That was about the only time I laughed in the entire finale. Thinking to myself, you got to be kidding!
It was silly, there's absolutely no doubt.
I lean to that being Lynch and Frost saying we're going to give you a Hollywood(-ish, if you squint at it) ending that some of you will demand, although we're making it silly because we think it's silly that we have to do that.
Doesn't get any more Hollywood cliched than a fistfight between a villain and a superpowered hero, right?
I respect everyone's personal experience with 17 and 18, regardless of if I agree or not. My experience was somewhat the opposite....if 17 had been the end, I would have been somewhat let down...a character with a magic glove ending evil would not have done it for me. But, in the context of 18 I was fine with that. Having watched both again today, I am even more pleased and awed with the final 2 hours. As I wrote in another post - this was Maximum Lynch and I loved it all. Can I explain it all? Hell no - but that's fine for me..I take it on a macro level as good and evil in an eternal, infinite play with heroes and villains and victims throughout time.
I agree with Reggie. I was not crazy when we first met him, but now I must admit his role bothers me even more. I just found the whole, punch Bob to death, as kind of foolish. That was about the only time I laughed in the entire finale. Thinking to myself, you got to be kidding!
It was silly, there's absolutely no doubt.
I lean to that being Lynch and Frost saying we're going to give you a Hollywood(-ish, if you squint at it) ending that some of you will demand, although we're making it silly because we think it's silly that we have to do that.
Doesn't get any more Hollywood cliched than a fistfight between a villain and a superpowered hero, right?
Reggie has been one of my few complaints. I think I've pointed out before, I don't care much for the elements of the story's attempt to poke fun at other stories or writing methods. Just seems beneath Lynch & Frost to waste their time and energy on petty pokes.
I'm just saying purely about how I felt..."Wow, if that was Part 17, I'm really pumped up for what Part 18 is going to be like." Then I watched Part 18 and I was like "Oh..."
Your feelings are completely understandable. The two eps. were like they were from two different shows. 17 - the most straightforward of the whole season, rolling up sleeves and getting down to cases on at least some of the storyline, - then in 18, completely the opposite - we were back into a dense, opaque and virtually impenetrable Lynchian world where we had to either surrender or give up in disgust. That's quite a dynamic, bound to stir emotions.
Throughout the course of The Return, there have been some episodes I have re-watched, but not all of them. One thing I do know is that when I have re-watched them, it has been a different experience to the first watching. I notice things I didn't notice the first time, and perhaps feel a bit more relaxed about it.
It's quite possible my appreciation for Part 18 may grow if I watch it again. Now that I know how it ends, I'm free of any expectations that will end up being disappointed. I might be able to just appreciated it for what it is.
Or I might just get bored while watching overly-long footage of two people sitting in a car. Who knows...
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