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Audrey vs. Diane in Part 18

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(@gina_lopinto)
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I was trying to figure out what wasn't sitting right with me in the final part. I didn't hate the ending, it left me feeling very unsettled for sure, but I didn't hate it.

I think one of the main things was the fact that Diane is the one Coop ends up saving. I feel like at many points, in both the original run and in the return, we're given subtle hints of a connection between Dale and Audrey whether romantic or otherwise.

In part 18, the arm referencing "the story of the little girl who lived down the lane" really brought this home for me, because I felt like something clicked for Coop and he made the connection to Audrey.

I know both women were raped by Mr. C and traumatized by that, but I'm just unclear why Diane is deemed more important in the end? Especially when, as a result of said rape, Audrey has Mr. C's kid. I know Lynch loves Laura Dern in general, but it feels very out of character to me for Cooper to become romantically involved with someone who he had a professional / working relationship with for so many years, especially after everything Mr. C put her through. To be honest, as much as I've always wanted an Audrey Cooper romance it would have seemed out of character to me if he'd saved, then kissed and slept with her immediately too.

I felt like the ending opened up pandora's box and pressed a million more questions in addition to the ones we already had left unanswered. That being said I hope Lynch and Frost will be open to making more episodes.

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 10:06 am
(@chris_gorgon)
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Honestly, it's probably because Laura Dern is far more important to Lynch and his career than Sherilyn Fenn ever was.  She and KM are his Katherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy, and that's who he wanted to ride with for the most important parts of this project.  

 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 10:23 am
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I suspect there is a chemistry lacking between Fenn and MacLachlan at this point. There was chemistry long ago, but things change. Tons of amazing chemistry between Dern and MacLachlan. Also Diane the character always seem to be a part of Cooper's personality--they are entwined even to the point that she first emerges as an idea on his tape recorder.

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 10:30 am
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Posted by: Gina LoPinto

I was trying to figure out what wasn't sitting right with me in the final part. I didn't hate the ending, it left me feeling very unsettled for sure, but I didn't hate it.

I think one of the main things was the fact that Diane is the one Coop ends up saving. I feel like at many points, in both the original run and in the return, we're given subtle hints of a connection between Dale and Audrey whether romantic or otherwise.

In part 18, the arm referencing "the story of the little girl who lived down the lane" really brought this home for me, because I felt like something clicked for Coop and he made the connection to Audrey.

I know both women were raped by Mr. C and traumatized by that, but I'm just unclear why Diane is deemed more important in the end? Especially when, as a result of said rape, Audrey has Mr. C's kid. I know Lynch loves Laura Dern in general, but it feels very out of character to me for Cooper to become romantically involved with someone who he had a professional / working relationship with for so many years, especially after everything Mr. C put her through. To be honest, as much as I've always wanted an Audrey Cooper romance it would have seemed out of character to me if he'd saved, then kissed and slept with her immediately too.

I felt like the ending opened up pandora's box and pressed a million more questions in addition to the ones we already had left unanswered. That being said I hope Lynch and Frost will be open to making more episodes.

I'm still of the opinion that his relationship with Diane is still professional and that what they were doing was done just so they could cross into the other universe. 

It was obviously going to be more difficult for Diane, having been raped by Bad Cooper, which is why she forgets what the purpose of the sex is for, which then turned her into 'Linda'. 

Cooper knows he isn't Richard - he remembers something but not enough for him to be Full Cooper again.

They had this planned long before they met up at the sheriff's department and maybe even before he became Dougie.

The kissing was their version of a secret handshake so they would know if the other one was the real.

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 10:31 am
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Posted by: Twin Speak
Posted by: Gina LoPinto

I was trying to figure out what wasn't sitting right with me in the final part. I didn't hate the ending, it left me feeling very unsettled for sure, but I didn't hate it.

I think one of the main things was the fact that Diane is the one Coop ends up saving. I feel like at many points, in both the original run and in the return, we're given subtle hints of a connection between Dale and Audrey whether romantic or otherwise.

In part 18, the arm referencing "the story of the little girl who lived down the lane" really brought this home for me, because I felt like something clicked for Coop and he made the connection to Audrey.

I know both women were raped by Mr. C and traumatized by that, but I'm just unclear why Diane is deemed more important in the end? Especially when, as a result of said rape, Audrey has Mr. C's kid. I know Lynch loves Laura Dern in general, but it feels very out of character to me for Cooper to become romantically involved with someone who he had a professional / working relationship with for so many years, especially after everything Mr. C put her through. To be honest, as much as I've always wanted an Audrey Cooper romance it would have seemed out of character to me if he'd saved, then kissed and slept with her immediately too.

I felt like the ending opened up pandora's box and pressed a million more questions in addition to the ones we already had left unanswered. That being said I hope Lynch and Frost will be open to making more episodes.

I'm still of the opinion that his relationship with Diane is still professional and that what they were doing was done just so they could cross into the other universe. 

It was obviously going to be more difficult for Diane, having been raped by Bad Cooper, which is why she forgets what the purpose of the sex is for, which then turned her into 'Linda'. 

Cooper knows he isn't Richard - he remembers something but not enough for him to be Full Cooper again.

They had this planned long before they met up at the sheriff's department and maybe even before he became Dougie.

The kissing was their version of a secret handshake so they would know if the other one was the real.

This actually makes a lot of sense to me. I took this into my re-watch tonight and I definitely think you're right. Nothing seems romantic between them on second viewing. It seems more like duty to complete a mission. In that instance it would make sense for it to be Diane because of her involvement in so many of the Blue Rose cases. Think my initial read of him being romantically interested in her blinded me to that. I know DL loves Laura Dern but I didn't think he or Mark Frost would let that get in the way of the narrative integrity of the overall story.

Still would have liked to see something more with Audrey though since my heart tells me she and Coop are still connected. Similar to Diane / Naido I think she is somehow trapped in either a lodge or other dimension :/

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 7:24 pm
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Cooper never really "returned" to Twin Peaks. He was there for one purpose and didn't really reconnect with anyone. Regardless  of where Audrey is now, she is simply a memory of his old Twin Peaks circle of friends, and his life is no longer about friends. Cooper is changed, permanently damaged, and the only people is his "life" are similarly placed people like Diane/Linda. He would only see Audrey if he found the corner of lodge hell that she is parked in.

It's a goddam bad story. 

 
Posted : 05/09/2017 7:54 pm
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