Continuity errors - an opinion  

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(@samxtherapy)
Detective

I am convinced that all the discrepancies spotted throughout the show have been left in deliberately, and that some were even created deliberately.

Frost and Lynch are meticulous about their work and, even if something slipped through the net, it's really, ridiculously simple to fix it in post production now.  Modern CG is so effective and easy to use that you wouldn't even know there was any editing on a final cut.

So, why have the "errors" been left in?

One idea is the Tarantino Effect.  He's stated that he does several takes of a scene, each slightly different, then edits them together in order to show how we are all unreliable witnesses, and nobody has perfect recall.  He also puts them in to give fans something to talk about, just for fun.

Another idea is they are showing someone retconning reality as it happens.  Maybe the Fireman, or Charlie, or something is playing around with the timelines and events to suit their own purposes.  Who is the dreamer?

Yet another idea is they were put in just to provide extra uncertainty.

Whichever one, or combination, I am convinced they aren't mistakes.

Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum

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Posted : 30/08/2017 8:34 am
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(@fumiko)
Roadhouse Regular

I figured they probably noticed them in post production and said "oh well, let them make blog posts about the time on someone's phone!"  

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Posted : 30/08/2017 8:35 am
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(@samxtherapy)
Detective

I think it was more like:

"Let's put this in, that'll make the daft buggers take notice."

Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum

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Posted : 30/08/2017 8:45 am
(@ruskinowl)
Roadhouse Regular

Can (for the part-timers like myself) please elaborate on as to what these errors are?

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Posted : 30/08/2017 8:47 am
(@steve_moss)
Roadhouse Regular

Something's wrong. These 'mistakes' are visual clues echoing the wrongness. 

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Posted : 30/08/2017 8:48 am
(@caoimhin)
Detective

The retconning makes sense for a being that can "see" five dimensionally. 

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Posted : 30/08/2017 8:52 am
(@devaneyfan)
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Posted by: Ruskinowl

Can (for the part-timers like myself) please elaborate on as to what these errors are?

There have been many throughout the 16 episodes.  In ep16, there were apparent continuity errors with Diane's phones, the times on the phones and the text messages on them.  There is also the apparent error of Tammy being out of frame and then back in frame in a fraction of a second during the Diane shootout. 

 

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Posted : 30/08/2017 9:26 am
 ella
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And what are your "favourite" errors? I cannot stop thinking about Bad Coop's age. In last episode he says he'25 years older than Richard. But when agent Cooper arrived to TP he was a bit older, in his 30's I believe. Also in his files after being arrested his birthdate states 1970's, as somebody noticed. So what is the point because I am pretty sure it's not some Lynch/Frost mistake?

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Posted : 30/08/2017 9:31 am
(@caoimhin)
Detective
Posted by: ella

And what are your "favourite" errors? I cannot stop thinking about Bad Coop's age. In last episode he says he'25 years older than Richard. But when agent Cooper arrived to TP he was a bit older, in his 30's I believe. Also in his files after being arrested his birthdate states 1970's, as somebody noticed. So what is the point because I am pretty sure it's not some Lynch/Frost mistake?

I've been thinking about this one in particular, after my recent rewatch, and have reached the conclusion that it's a droll meta reference to the Return. I hope there's more to it than that but it will really spaghettify your brain to ponder. 

Edit: I just realized that Mr C was actually "born" when Coop entered the Red Room, so it makes sense. 

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Posted : 30/08/2017 9:35 am
(@devaneyfan)
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Posted by: Caoimhín Shirey
Posted by: ella

And what are your "favourite" errors? I cannot stop thinking about Bad Coop's age. In last episode he says he'25 years older than Richard. But when agent Cooper arrived to TP he was a bit older, in his 30's I believe. Also in his files after being arrested his birthdate states 1970's, as somebody noticed. So what is the point because I am pretty sure it's not some Lynch/Frost mistake?

I've been thinking about this one in particular, after my recent rewatch, and have reached the conclusion that it's a droll meta reference to the Return. I hope there's more to it than that but it will really spaghettify your brain to ponder. 

Edit: I just realized that Mr C was actually "born" when Coop entered the Red Room, so it makes sense. 

Thanks for both the meta and actual explanations.  This had me stumped and I think both your explanations are accurate. 

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Posted : 30/08/2017 9:44 am
(@kyle-anderson)
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The entire timeline of the Return seems to be strange (even in details: Andy's watch, the monitor in Miriam's room, Diane's iPhone...). We've still to know when the Return is set. If we assume the events take place 25 after Laura Palmer's murder, it would be set in 2014. TSHoTP seems to indicate 2016 instead.  Not mention about Nadine "Gertz"/Butler and Norma "Lindstrom"/Blackburn. A lot of continuity problems and I think a good deal of them would not be solved in the last two hours.

I'm not a native English speaker. Please be kind...

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Posted : 30/08/2017 9:45 am
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(@micah_sam)
Lodger

I've been thinking a lot about this recently - one thing, in particular, is scenes that are verbatim repeated or ones that seem ... similar but just a little off. One that I noticed during the last episode is Chantal and Hutch in the van - in one scene they are talking and she puts her leg up on his and they have a conversation. Later in the episode, we see the same thing happen (physically - like, she puts her leg up, he puts his arm over it) but the conversation is different. 

I think (maybe) one thing that is going on here is a loop of some sort. So, maybe, what we're seeing in some of these scenes that are being repeated but slightly different is another iteration of events in the loop (e.g., the cafe scene where all the extras change). Sometimes, when verbatim, it's just that in loop a v loop b, these events are exactly the same. 

This would explain, like, when Cole/Albert "start to remember" the dream/Jeffries visiting the FBI, etc. - it's a memory of a prior loop. 

"Time and Time Again" 

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Posted : 30/08/2017 9:51 am
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 ella
(@ella)
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I noticed the same thing with Chantal's leg:)

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Posted : 30/08/2017 9:58 am
(@jeffryphillips)
Town Visitor

If it was any other programme we'd just say 'continuity error' add it to the list of goofs on IMDB and move on.

Only Twin Peaks could we get the situation where these are considered serious plot contrivances first, potential errors (and I have washed my mouth out for saying that) second

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Posted : 30/08/2017 10:01 am
(@caoimhin)
Detective
Posted by: Kyle Anderson

The entire timeline of the Return seems to be strange (even in details: Andy's watch, the monitor in Miriam's room, Diane's iPhone...). We've still to know when the Return is set. If we assume the events take place 25 after Laura Palmer's murder, it would be set in 2014. TSHoTP seems to indicate 2016 instead.  Not mention about Nadine "Gertz"/Butler and Norma "Lindstrom"/Blackburn. A lot of continuity problems and I think a good deal of them would not be solved in the last two hours.

I have a feeling that once Mr C (and possibly Bob) is annihilated that there's going to be some kind of alternate/parallel  history/dimension that becomes actual. 

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Posted : 30/08/2017 10:03 am
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