Three popular theories were debunked this episode.
Audrey might not be Richard's mother - it's been confirmed she is.
Green gloved guy exists in James's head - disproven in this episode.
Coop wakes up in EP15. Didn't happen. We could be clever and say that the action might have awoken him and we'll see him back as normal keep next week, but we'll be clutching onto straws.
technically, that's just two, plus speculation 😉
Three popular theories were debunked this episode.
Green gloved guy exists in James's head - disproven in this episode.
Not necessarily true if the scene in the Roadhouse existed in someone's (or in several people's) mind. Tammy talking about a "tulpa" is very important imo and maybe comes into play here.
None of them were debunked.
Mr C hasn't given anything away regarding his relationship with Richard. Unless it's explicitly stated or shown in another unambiguous way, it's not a given that Mr C is Richard's long lost daddy. For all we know, he may need Richard to get to Audrey for some reason. She may have something he wants. Not needs, wants, of course.
Freddie Green Glove could still be a figment of James' imagination. We may be seeing events as James understands them. James could have turned into Mega Ninja Man and flattened everyone with his Super Electric Fist Punch. Not likely, I know but this is Twin Peaks and stranger things have happened. We need to see Freddie interact with people in a real, meaningful way, not just punch their lights out. Until I see Hawk or Andy, or anyone other than James talking with him, it's ambiguous.
I never expected Coop to wake up and I'll stick me neck out and say most people felt the same. Want/hope/wish are not the same as is and will.
So there.
Honestly the first time I began encountering this "theory" that the emerald-gloved guy was a figment of James' imagination were people on here and on Reddit rushing to squash the supposed "popular theories". At this point it seems like we're operating in different universes where theories are only created after they are debunked. An anthropic fanverse, if you will.
I'll eat my hat if James mate is a figment of his imagination.
Richard comfirmed his mother is Audrey. If he's wrong or lying, I'll eat two hats.
I admit I can't comment on the Cooper returning in this episode. Technically though, he didn't but we can argue semantics til we're blue in the face 🙂
Edit - just to be clear I'm not a debunker. I'm just trying to note popular theories that seem to be floating around, and logging them off with a "could be" or a "nope".
Three popular theories were debunked this episode.
Green gloved guy exists in James's head - disproven in this episode.
Not necessarily true if the scene in the Roadhouse existed in someone's (or in several people's) mind. Tammy talking about a "tulpa" is very important imo and maybe comes into play here.
I would counter this is not the case, given we saw scenes in the prison before the James debacle. And also, if it is all a dream - then sigh...
None of them were debunked.
Mr C hasn't given anything away regarding his relationship with Richard. Unless it's explicitly stated or shown in another unambiguous way, it's not a given that Mr C is Richard's long lost daddy. For all we know, he may need Richard to get to Audrey for some reason. She may have something he wants. Not needs, wants, of course.
Except they didn't say anything about Richard and Mr. C. Myn0k was talking about Audrey being Richard's mother, so I'm not sure why you launched into all of that about Mr. C. LOL
Freddie Green Glove could still be a figment of James' imagination. We may be seeing events as James understands them. James could have turned into Mega Ninja Man and flattened everyone with his Super Electric Fist Punch. Not likely, I know but this is Twin Peaks and stranger things have happened. We need to see Freddie interact with people in a real, meaningful way, not just punch their lights out. Until I see Hawk or Andy, or anyone other than James talking with him, it's ambiguous.
So, Bobby was locking-up an invisible man, and uncuffing James' imaginary friend. And when Chad noticed him, that was still ambiguous.
Look, Freddie Styles is real.
Freddie Green Glove could still be a figment of James' imagination. We may be seeing events as James understands them. James could have turned into Mega Ninja Man and flattened everyone with his Super Electric Fist Punch. Not likely, I know but this is Twin Peaks and stranger things have happened. We need to see Freddie interact with people in a real, meaningful way, not just punch their lights out. Until I see Hawk or Andy, or anyone other than James talking with him, it's ambiguous.
So, Bobby was locking-up an invisible man, and uncuffing James' imaginary friend. And when Chad noticed him, that was still ambiguous.
Look, Freddie Styles is real.
I agree he has to be real.
Don't get me wrong - I appreciate anything crazy can happen. But I think it's way more than a longshot that the whole scene (including Naido) is imaginary.
For the record, I don't believe Freddie is imaginary, not after the fight scene. But all the events don't point to anything, since they could all still be James' delusion.
1. the prevailing theory was that she is his mother
2. yes, debunked
3. I ll be as technically anal and say that if he is awake in the next episode then he woke up in ep. 15. Im pretty sure he is awake.
It looks likely with Dougie recognising the Gordon Cole ref. from Sunset Boulevard, followed by the electrocution, he'll be pretty much back to normal when he does return which in all fairness could be anytime in the next 3 episodes considering the overall pacing of the show this season. He was shocked in ep.3 and then shocked in ep.15 which fits with the theory of those numbers anyhow. People jumped the gun assuming he'd be back Ep. 15 and Lynch wouldn't drag it out again (wishful thinking folks!) but, lets be honest, the essential reasoning behind the theory re the Mauve Room's fusebox numerics appears to be correct. Though obv. the Good Coopers return is still not 100% confirmed at this point.
I'll be surprised to see him back in the next episode even. Its pure speculation, but I have this distinct feeling Lynch/Frost are gonna drag out seeing the return of Coop until the finale. that last episode title is "What is your name?" too... Ep. 16 will probably focus primarily on Gordon Cole et al and maybe some more Sarah Palmer scenes. Since they weren't in it last week.
My only niggling doubt here is this: Bad Coop has only just (allegedly) texted Diane the "Las Vegas" message in Ep. 15 so theres still some ways to go before that whole storyline catches up to the Diane receiving it a couple of episodes ago (it must be at least 2 or 3 episodes now since she received it?). They've made it absolutely clear to the audience since the last episode though that the narrative timeline has been slightly eschewed so perhaps theres a reason they've only revealed this erratic pattern of timelines/narratives now...
It looks likely with Dougie recognising the Gordon Cole ref. from Sunset Boulevard, followed by the electrocution, he'll be pretty much back to normal when he does return which in all fairness could be anytime in the next 3 episodes considering the overall pacing of the show this season. He was shocked in ep.3 and then shocked in ep.15 which fits with the theory of those numbers anyhow. People jumped the gun assuming he'd be back Ep. 15 and Lynch wouldn't drag it out again (wishful thinking folks!) but, lets be honest, the essential reasoning behind the theory re the Mauve Room's fusebox numerics appears to be correct. Though obv. the Good Coopers return is still not 100% confirmed at this point.
I'll be surprised to see him back in the next episode even. Its pure speculation, but I have this distinct feeling Lynch/Frost are gonna drag out seeing the return of Coop until the finale. that last episode title is "What is your name?" too... Ep. 16 will probably focus primarily on Gordon Cole et al and maybe some more Sarah Palmer scenes. Since they weren't in it last week.
My only niggling doubt here is this: Bad Coop has only just (allegedly) texted Diane the "Las Vegas" message in Ep. 15 so theres still some ways to go before that whole storyline catches up to the Diane receiving it a couple of episodes ago (it must be at least 2 or 3 episodes now since she received it?). They've made it absolutely clear to the audience since the last episode though that the narrative timeline has been slightly eschewed so perhaps theres a reason they've only revealed this erratic pattern of timelines/narratives now...
What's just crossed my mind is that we still don't really know what Mr C wants (what he really, really wants).
Perhaps the real Coop returning to normal will provide all the details we as an audience need to know. The real Coop may instantly know what he wants, and provide exposition to Cole / Hawk and co.
There's a lot to understand and resolve in three episodes. Or maybe there's not.
Honestly the first time I began encountering this "theory" that the emerald-gloved guy was a figment of James' imagination were people on here and on Reddit rushing to squash the supposed "popular theories". At this point it seems like we're operating in different universes where theories are only created after they are debunked. An anthropic fanverse, if you will.
This is my fault I cause I think I was the first to mention it on here so sorry. I did say on that post I didn't think it was true due to James and Freddie being so absent from the main story until now.
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