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Posted by: henrysteiger

Mr C, evil as he is, is certainly capable of committing rape.  But it seems "out of character" to have carried out the act on a comatose Audrey.  Mr C and Bob especially I would think get off not on the act, but the terror and trauma imposed on others.. garmonbozia.  So if he's the father, I'd bet it was after Audrey's "recovery."  Being manipulated by Mr C, taken advantage of by someone she thought she was in love with.. then maybe learning the truth?  This I can see wrecking her emotionally.  Add in the demon seed son that would follow and her present psychological state is completely understandable. 

If we go with the idea that some people are positing that Mr. C. has "evolved" over 25 years..."Mr. C." as we were first introduced was reckless, insane, goofy, etc. etc. Then, he becomes ego, revolving around and surpassing BOB/id? I dunno.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 1:06 am
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Posted by: Caoimhín Shirey
Posted by: Ollie Barkovic

I keep seeing this " Mr C raped Audrey in a coma. " thing  

Where is that from, did I miss something?

 

It has been inferred, by some viewers, from when Doc Hayward mentions seeing Cooper leave the ICU (where Audrey and Annie were). 

It was Doc's GUESS of why he had seen "Cooper" there. He could've stopped by to make sure Annie died so she didn't "tell any tales."

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Posted : 21/08/2017 1:13 am
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Some thoughts:

I think tonight's episode was the first definite confirmation that Audrey is Richard's mom. 

If Mr. C. is the dark side / dark half of Cooper I can imagine him following his lust for Audrey, that his good half surpressed. 

In how far is Mr. C. human and does he need sex/rape to reproduce? Does he have some other way to plant the seed? Is that the same way Sonny Jim came into being? 

 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 1:23 am
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Posted by: MJ Gilbert
Posted by: Ollie Barkovic

That's  bullshit. 

Seems a quite reasonable theory, one that has been explored, along with other alternatives, in this forum pretty extensively. Care to expand on your critique? Any theories about Richard's parenthood you'd like to forward?

How do we know Mr C is Richards father?

He broke into a hospital room and had sex with a comatose girl and she gave birth while comatose?

How about Richard is Charlie and Audrey's son. 

But it is fiction after all. 🙂

So who knows!

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Posted : 21/08/2017 1:30 am
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Posted : 21/08/2017 1:37 am
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Posted by: Ollie Barkovic
Posted by: MJ Gilbert
Posted by: Ollie Barkovic

That's  bullshit. 

Seems a quite reasonable theory, one that has been explored, along with other alternatives, in this forum pretty extensively. Care to expand on your critique? Any theories about Richard's parenthood you'd like to forward?

How do we know Mr C is Richards father?

He broke into a hospital room and had sex with a comatose girl and she gave birth while comatose?

How about Richard is Charlie and Audrey's son. 

But it is fiction after all. 🙂

So who knows!

Well we do know Charlie is kind of a Dick. 😀

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Posted : 21/08/2017 1:52 am
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He must have done something that Richard felt strongly enough about to go after him with a gun. 

 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 7:08 am
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Posted by: Christen Garver

He must have done something that Richard felt strongly enough about to go after him with a gun. 

 

Are you saying that Richard went after Mister C to avenge his mother's rape (if this theory is true)?  I think it's more likely that Richard believes that Mister C is after him/his drug ring as an FBI agent. 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 7:36 am
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Posted by: Ollie Barkovic

That's  bullshit. 

 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 8:32 am
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I think the only reason Coop didn't kill Richard on the spot was b/c he intuited he might be looking at his own son. Not that it would make him suddenly empathetic, but if Coop can USE Richard in some fashion, then he's useful. Coop will probably try to figure out how far from the demon seed tree young Richard has dropped. Not far! being the obvious answer.

It's interesting that Coop seemed to have no idea his potential son existed. If he raped Audrey, he never looked back.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 11:39 am
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Posted by: Damien Crowley
Posted by: Jocelyn Rowe
Posted by: MJ Gilbert

Just one of. Those long father and son drives in the country, talking about life. 

"Dad, tell me about how I was born."

"well, son, your mother was in a coma in the hospital, and I snuck in..."

Maybe. I have been wondering all along if it really happened the way we think. Richard said his mother had Dale's picture. This could mean many things.

If Audrey has Dale's picture - or kept it long enough for Richard to be born, grow up  and see it - then she's not aware that Mr C assaulted her. Otherwise she would have thrown that out, thinking it was the real Cooper. 

Agreed.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 11:40 am
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Posted by: Roberto Bella

I think the only reason Coop didn't kill Richard on the spot was b/c he intuited he might be looking at his own son. Not that it would make him suddenly empathetic, but if Coop can USE Richard in some fashion, then he's useful. Coop will probably try to figure out how far from the demon seed tree young Richard has dropped. Not far! being the obvious answer.

It's interesting that Coop seemed to have no idea his potential son existed. If he raped Audrey, he never looked back.

It would be very ironic if Richard took part in the destruction of Mister C and ended up redeeming himself for his otherwise horrific behavior.  He would probably have to be sacrificed in the process. 

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Posted : 21/08/2017 11:43 am
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Posted by: buttercup
Posted by: Christen Garver

He must have done something that Richard felt strongly enough about to go after him with a gun. 

 

Are you saying that Richard went after Mister C to avenge his mother's rape (if this theory is true)?  I think it's more likely that Richard believes that Mister C is after him/his drug ring as an FBI agent. 

same!

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Posted : 21/08/2017 12:02 pm
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Posted by: Roberto Bella

I think the only reason Coop didn't kill Richard on the spot was b/c he intuited he might be looking at his own son. Not that it would make him suddenly empathetic, but if Coop can USE Richard in some fashion, then he's useful. Coop will probably try to figure out how far from the demon seed tree young Richard has dropped. Not far! being the obvious answer.

It's interesting that Coop seemed to have no idea his potential son existed. If he raped Audrey, he never looked back.

It would be very ironic if Richard took part in the destruction of Mister C and ended up redeeming himself for his otherwise horrific behavior.  He would probably have to be sacrificed in the process. 

Id prefer to see them both burn

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Posted : 21/08/2017 12:03 pm
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Posted by: Roberto Bella

I think the only reason Coop didn't kill Richard on the spot was b/c he intuited he might be looking at his own son. Not that it would make him suddenly empathetic, but if Coop can USE Richard in some fashion, then he's useful. Coop will probably try to figure out how far from the demon seed tree young Richard has dropped. Not far! being the obvious answer.

It's interesting that Coop seemed to have no idea his potential son existed. If he raped Audrey, he never looked back.

This. It speaks volumes he was allowed to live.

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Posted : 21/08/2017 12:09 pm
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