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(@bewareofbob)
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I'm not sure whether someone has already mentioned this - I just checked the threads' titles - but after Chantal shoots Mr. Todd and Roger, she walks away and the soles of her shoes appear red. It's not blood, she would not be so sloppy.

No idea what this means. She has little in common with all the other women we saw wearing red shoes. Or "just the soles" means she HAS something in common, but what?

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 2:40 pm
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u might want to start by explaining the significance of a red detail in almost every single scene of the series. 

statistically speaking, when a lot of different objects appear in red, it is no longer about the object (the shoes) but the comomn color between objects (and scenes). Its clearly a red room red in all the scenes if that helps.

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 2:43 pm
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Definitely not blood.  Not only would Chantal never be so careless, but there would be footprints all over that beige carpet.

I definitely wouldn't expect her in red shoes.  But red soles, that kinda make sense. 😉

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 2:50 pm
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Red soles are the signature of Louboutin, a very expensive brand of shoe. They are likely both part of her costume to get into what appears to be a very swanky office building and also part of Lynch's colour themes. 

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 3:28 pm
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Posted by: John Kealy

Red soles are the signature of Louboutin, a very expensive brand of shoe. They are likely both part of her costume to get into what appears to be a very swanky office building and also part of Lynch's colour themes. 

Learn something new every day. 🙂

Next question, was it intentional in the scene?

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 3:33 pm
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The French woman with Cole was wearing Louboutins too and she showed them off in a very stagey way.

There have been so many red shoes that I don't think it's just a statistical coincidence. Not necessarily a deliberate code but I think probably a deliberate choice of motif.

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 3:36 pm
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Posted by: John Kealy

Red soles are the signature of Louboutin, a very expensive brand of shoe. They are likely both part of her costume to get into what appears to be a very swanky office building and also part of Lynch's colour themes. 

That's right. The shoes themselves mean nothing. U dont need to know the shoes are louboutin to understand that in order to enter a corporate high-end building unnoticed  u must look uber corporate chic. The semiotics of the scene are about the different disguises a character like chantel can have in real life and that they come in polished outfits too (killer ruthless execs etc).

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 3:42 pm
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Posted by: KLynched

The French woman with Cole was wearing Louboutins too and she showed them off in a very stagey way.

There have been so many red shoes that I don't think it's just a statistical coincidence. Not necessarily a deliberate code but I think probably a deliberate choice of motif.

statistical is the color, not the shoes. theres a red detail in every scene. this debate reminds me of the balloon's significance agony i keep reading about. Red pens or chairs have appeared more times than balloons. unless there's an explicit emphasis (like when dougie see the red shoes) its not about the objects, but about the color and its connection to the red room (it is always the same red as in the red room). Theres been a lot of everything red, nothing special about the shoe sole. Lynch wanted this color to exist in almost all scenes so, something connects the entire series reality with the red room. 

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 3:48 pm
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i beg you: don't start googling the etymology of the word louboutin or the history of the brand to find significant details. its not about the brand of the shoes. Its about the red color element appearing in every single scene. From a tiny button on a remote control, to balloons, chairs, lamps, cups, carpets, nail polish, trousers, jackets, shirts, lipstick, books, phones, bla bla bla. Red is all over the place.  Theres maybe a handful of scenes that the color doesn't exist on the frame or the scene. 

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 3:53 pm
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Awful lotta red shoes for it to evade stats. 🙂

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 3:58 pm
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DL seems to have a thing for red shoes. It has been discussed in an earlier thread,  and I am pretty sure I offered up this quote from Mr. MacManus:

Oh I used to be disgusted

But now I try to be amused

But since their wings have got busted

You know the angels wanna wear my red shoes

But since they told me 'bout their side of the bargain

That's when I knew that I could not refuse

And I won't get any older

now the angels wanna wear my red shoes.

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 4:03 pm
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Awful lotta red shoes for it to evade stats. 🙂

Or are they all ruby red slippers? 

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 4:07 pm
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Posted by: fullgomenakias

i beg you: don't start googling the etymology of the word louboutin...

I wasn't even thinking about it until you said that. Of course I went on Google but found nothing. Now I'm curious! 😀

I'm not frantically searching for clues in every small detail. I agree that red appears constantly in various forms (objects, names, lights) and that it has an overall disturbing connotation, just like green seems to have a possible positive connotation. But this struck me exactly because shoes are so specific. I think there have been what, two instances of red balloons? For the shoes we have:

Jeffries in FWWM [edited]

Janey-E

Diane

Woman at police station, noticed by DougieCooper

French woman with Cole

Shelly? (car scene with Becky)

Chantal

(I may have forgotten someone)

The obvious common element one can find is the Wizard of Oz and the ruby slippers. But since all these women [edited: and one future teakettle] don't seem to be wide-eyed Dorothies, there could be more to it. It could be part of a double clue, the theme of the quest + Cooper's missing black shoes = Cooper's need to return. Or it could just be a fetish of Lynch's. For me what really counts is to have fun noticing these small things, even when they mean little.

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 5:08 pm
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Posted by: BewareOfBob
Posted by: fullgomenakias

i beg you: don't start googling the etymology of the word louboutin...

I wasn't even thinking about it until you said that. Of course I went on Google but found nothing. Now I'm curious! 😀

I'm not frantically searching for clues in every small detail. I agree that red appears constantly in various forms (objects, names, lights) and that it has an overall disturbing connotation, just like green seems to have a possible positive connotation. But this struck me exactly because shoes are so specific. I think there have been what, two instances of red balloons? For the shoes we have:

Janey-E

Diane

Woman at police station, noticed by DougieCooper

French woman with Cole

Shelly? (car scene with Becky)

Chantal

(I may have forgotten someone)

The obvious common element one can find is the Wizard of Oz and the ruby slippers. But since all of these women don't seem to be wide-eyed Dorothies, there could be more to it. It could be part of a double clue, the theme of the quest + Cooper's missing black shoes = Cooper's need to return. Or it could just be a fetish of Lynch's. For me what really counts is to have fun noticing these small things, even when they mean little.

if we agree that Lynch seems to need at least one red detail in every frame, there is a very easy way to solve the shoes issue: 

when there are shoes on the scene, is there another red detail to satisfy the red detail need? If not, the shoe is the red detail that plays the same role as the rest of the red objects. 

isn't it possible that red (like a color in a painting) becomes more or less, depending on what lynch wants to denote with the red color? He might be putting it on the shoes to make the red move with the character and not surround him. In this case our issue is moving reds and still reds, not shoes.

not shoes.

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 5:18 pm
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Posted by: BewareOfBob
Posted by: fullgomenakias

i beg you: don't start googling the etymology of the word louboutin...

I wasn't even thinking about it until you said that. Of course I went on Google but found nothing. Now I'm curious! 😀

I'm not frantically searching for clues in every small detail. I agree that red appears constantly in various forms (objects, names, lights) and that it has an overall disturbing connotation, just like green seems to have a possible positive connotation. But this struck me exactly because shoes are so specific. I think there have been what, two instances of red balloons? For the shoes we have:

Janey-E

Diane

Woman at police station, noticed by DougieCooper

French woman with Cole

Shelly? (car scene with Becky)

Chantal

(I may have forgotten someone)

The obvious common element one can find is the Wizard of Oz and the ruby slippers. But since all of these women don't seem to be wide-eyed Dorothies, there could be more to it. It could be part of a double clue, the theme of the quest + Cooper's missing black shoes = Cooper's need to return. Or it could just be a fetish of Lynch's. For me what really counts is to have fun noticing these small things, even when they mean little.

OR, lynch wants to prove that you are all a bunch of shoe fetishists (among the junkies, killers and lost souls of the dystopia he depicts on the series). Counting shoes and not chairs. 

 
Posted : 23/08/2017 5:21 pm
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