The conversations and situations we observe at the Roadhouse are always at the same table. I heard the theory about that table being Audrey. I just don't get it. Is Charlie trapped in the same table? I hope it isn't true because then this is all we'll get of her. After all, how does one get out of a wooden table?
Josie was somehow trapped in wood after her physical body was dead, killed by Bob in a Great Northern hotel room. The Log Lady visited the site of the fire that killed her husband, and returned with a log which a myth says contained her husband's spirit. We never see Josie again, while the log told a meaningful story central to the film. These are the only wood- containment stories I recall.
Hi Jocelyn,
So , in other words, to answer buttercup's question directly, as far as Twin Peaks mythology and history is concerned, there is no way out of the wood. =:-O
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The conversations and situations we observe at the Roadhouse are always at the same table. I heard the theory about that table being Audrey. I just don't get it. Is Charlie trapped in the same table? I hope it isn't true because then this is all we'll get of her. After all, how does one get out of a wooden table?
The same way one gets in, I suppose.
Now, if Audrey is dead and in the table, that means Billy is dead too because she's sleeping with him. Which doesn't make sense because folks in the diner are looking for Billy. And as Jocelyn posted, why would Audrey be "haunting" the Roadhouse? It would make more sense if she was trapped in the hotel. But then, she would not be able to pick up those conversations in the Roadhouse.
I think Audrey knows stuff about the Roadhouse because she's alive, albeit in an altered mental state.
Or as someone else posted, she could be just stuck in a bad marriage. She can't leave because she can't make up her mind or just wants to pick a fight with Charlie. It's understandable why we're looking for supernatural, metaphysical explanations, but the reason could be mundane.
After all, how does one get out of a wooden table?
Simple: Master density shifting. Dr. Evil voice: "Quite standard really." Did you not study all the info on Hastings' site? ???
" Many have heard the rumors involving the Philadelphia Experiment and there is truth in what happen. The US Military while trying to reduce the radar signature of ships and planes, irradiated different targets with subatomic particles as an unexpected sub process of one of their experiments responsible for the vibrational rate of basic matter. Imperfect as any process found by accident, the field did not have parameters to control the synchronized the movement of matter in the 3 dimensional grid. As matter moved from 3rd density to intermediate levels below the 4th, problems occurred. With a vibrational increased basic matter separates allowing light to diffuse through, thus the ghost like appearances of men trapped in the density shift. Ultimately positional changes by the men exploring their new surroundings found a horrific result, solidification within solid objects due to the test subjects movement while on the other side was not considered when return to 3rd density completed. When controlled by an advanced entity accidents are rare. This is how reports from friendly encounters of being able to pass through solid objects is achieved."
Didn't BOB put Josie's soul in the door knob? You see him laughing maniacally just after she dies after he feeds on his fear.
In my opinion, for Audrey to have been put inside the wood, BOB of some other spirit would have to have done it.
To me, Charlie is playing the role of some kind of gentle guide, trying to help her but waiting for her to find her own resolution.
The Audrey - Charlie thing is weird as she doesn't really seem to be responding to what he says or the way he says it. The 2 sides of the conversation don't seem to match up.
As for what state she's in - I have absolutely no idea!!
The conversations and situations we observe at the Roadhouse are always at the same table.
I'm really starting to think that many/most of the roadhouse scenes are all in James's mind. Not a lot to go on but I think he is the one major character from the whole series that we have seen in the Roadhouse multiple times. But maybe the clincher is when he is singing the song on stage.... not a new version but the exact same soundtrack from 25 years ago, and also with two female backup singers representing Donna and Maddie.
That's very interesting.
After all, how does one get out of a wooden table?
Simple: Master density shifting. Dr. Evil voice: "Quite standard really." Did you not study all the info on Hastings' site? ???
" Many have heard the rumors involving the Philadelphia Experiment and there is truth in what happen. The US Military while trying to reduce the radar signature of ships and planes, irradiated different targets with subatomic particles as an unexpected sub process of one of their experiments responsible for the vibrational rate of basic matter. Imperfect as any process found by accident, the field did not have parameters to control the synchronized the movement of matter in the 3 dimensional grid. As matter moved from 3rd density to intermediate levels below the 4th, problems occurred. With a vibrational increased basic matter separates allowing light to diffuse through, thus the ghost like appearances of men trapped in the density shift. Ultimately positional changes by the men exploring their new surroundings found a horrific result, solidification within solid objects due to the test subjects movement while on the other side was not considered when return to 3rd density completed. When controlled by an advanced entity accidents are rare. This is how reports from friendly encounters of being able to pass through solid objects is achieved."
I have heard of this, but didn't really connect it to TP. Thanks!
The conversations and situations we observe at the Roadhouse are always at the same table. I heard the theory about that table being Audrey. I just don't get it. Is Charlie trapped in the same table? I hope it isn't true because then this is all we'll get of her. After all, how does one get out of a wooden table?
Josie was somehow trapped in wood after her physical body was dead, killed by Bob in a Great Northern hotel room. The Log Lady visited the site of the fire that killed her husband, and returned with a log which a myth says contained her husband's spirit. We never see Josie again, while the log told a meaningful story central to the film. These are the only wood- containment stories I recall.
Now what sense can we make of Audrey dying and her soul migrating to a Roadhouse table? Josie stayed right in the same room where she died , and the log story is myth. Audrey never hung out in the Roadhouse yet now we are to believe she snoops on people's conversations and weaves a fantasy life from them. All from under the table, sight unseen. This seems too goofy for Lynch's world. How did she get There? Why the Roadhouse?
There's got to be something a little more meaningful in Audrey's story line.
Great explanation. I agree with you. I don't think that Audrey is trapped in wood, and if she were trapped in wood, it would probably be at the Great Northern.
The answer to Audrey's situation will likely lie in her "contract" with Charlie.
I'm starting to wonder if she's been in hiding for the last 25 years. She's been told to wait there for 25 years and Charlie has been a sort of surrogate husband/protector. Contracted to protect her / watch over her / ensure she doesn't leave until it's safe. This explains why Charlie says "you're supposed to go to the roadhouse."). It may explain why she feels out of character/not quite herself.
She's been technically free to leave (her instructions were to head to the Roadhouse after waiting 25 years), but it's been so long she's scared to leave the confines of her safehouse. Charlie could probably do with her leaving. He's spent 25 years looking after her. But he's grown wary over time - she just won't bloody leave and go to the roadhouse!
No idea. Just waxing lyrical. Trying to move away from the dream / coma idea. Frost and Lynch have been great at throwing minor red herrings. Who knows though.
Is Richard Horne born in a wooden table ?
I have two wooden shoes, just found out they are Pete and Catherine Martell 😉
Didn't BOB put Josie's soul in the door knob? You see him laughing maniacally just after she dies after he feeds on his fear.
In my opinion, for Audrey to have been put inside the wood, BOB of some other spirit would have to have done it.
To me, Charlie is playing the role of some kind of gentle guide, trying to help her but waiting for her to find her own resolution.
Yes, it appeared that Bob sent Josie to the drawer knob. So the analogous situation would be that Bob (hosted by Bad Coop) killed Audrey at the Roadhouse table and parked her spirit there.
I thought Bob had to have a host to act in our world. But it seems like he just showed up to kill Josie and Thomas, while Agent Cooper witnessed it. Who was Bob's host toward the end of S2? Before Bad Coop becomes host?
If it were known that Bad Coop killed Audrey, there would be no mystery about "Cooper's " disappearance. There would be a big manhunt after him. So that can't be the answer. A Roadhouse murder would have witnesses.
Frank Truman knows what happened to Audrey. After Doc Hayward mentions her, he goes quiet and changes the subject to upbeat fishing topic. Frank maintains a respectful silence when Ben talks about Richard's lack of a father. There is always much unsaid in these scenes.
I believe it's a dream because it feels like a dream. One can have a mixture of both real and imagined people in one's dreams doing both real and imagined things. She doesn't need to be in a coma to be dreaming. Everyone dreams. It might not even be HER dream. Someone else could be dreaming ABOUT Audrey for all we know. It really feels dreamlike to me, though.
Maybe it's Linda dreaming. And in the final episode she'll wake up, call Richard and say: "I just had a weird dream about mom..."
Aren't there theories about Richard and Linda being Audrey's twins? Also, if Linda can't walk she might be familiar with the feeling of not being able to go anywhere she likes.
Didn't BOB put Josie's soul in the door knob? You see him laughing maniacally just after she dies after he feeds on his fear.
In my opinion, for Audrey to have been put inside the wood, BOB of some other spirit would have to have done it.
To me, Charlie is playing the role of some kind of gentle guide, trying to help her but waiting for her to find her own resolution.
Yes, it appeared that Bob sent Josie to the drawer knob. So the analogous situation would be that Bob (hosted by Bad Coop) killed Audrey at the Roadhouse table and parked her spirit there.
I thought Bob had to have a host to act in our world. But it seems like he just showed up to kill Josie and Thomas, while Agent Cooper witnessed it. Who was Bob's host toward the end of S2? Before Bad Coop becomes host?
If it were known that Bad Coop killed Audrey, there would be no mystery about "Cooper's " disappearance. There would be a big manhunt after him. So that can't be the answer. A Roadhouse murder would have witnesses.
Frank Truman knows what happened to Audrey. After Doc Hayward mentions her, he goes quiet and changes the subject to upbeat fishing topic. Frank maintains a respectful silence when Ben talks about Richard's lack of a father. There is always much unsaid in these scenes.
He shows up a few times in season 2 without a host.
I think he needs a host though to experience human senses or to interact physically with things.
Maybe he was able to put Josie in the door knob because she was already dead - she died of a broken heart didn't she? But then BOB moves her soul into the door knob).
Here's another theory.
DoppleCoop is a planner. He somehow created Dougie to keep Cooper trapped in the Black Lodge. It makes sense that he would have a plan for Cooper if he makes it back in the real world.
So, Audrey is DougieCoop's hostage in some strange hallucinatory or interdimensional prison. When Cooper reappears, he'll be faced with Audrey being held hostage.
I strongly believe Charlie is DoppleCoop's partner seen in the picture of the glass box. Charlie helps create the "story" that Audrey experiences in this prison - maybe there have been hundreds of stories over the past many years.
Here's another theory.
DoppleCoop is a planner. He somehow created Dougie to keep Cooper trapped in the Black Lodge. It makes sense that he would have a plan for Cooper if he makes it back in the real world.
So, Audrey is DougieCoop's hostage in some strange hallucinatory or interdimensional prison. When Cooper reappears, he'll be faced with Audrey being held hostage.
I strongly believe Charlie is DoppleCoop's partner seen in the picture of the glass box. Charlie helps create the "story" that Audrey experiences in this prison - maybe there have been hundreds of stories over the past many years.
Just looked at the photo of Mr C and associate by the glass box and it does look like Charlie!
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