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Posted by: SamXTherapy
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If I was booking bands for The Roadhouse I would have gone for:

Scott Walker / Swans / Zola Jesus / Fever Ray / Effi Briest / Connan Mockasin / Pharmakon / Shannon Funchess 

Some pretty good choices there! Most people I know have never heard of Connan Mockasin. Great musician. He's probably the reason as to why I didn't hate James' song too -- his vocals are a little bit Connan Mockasin-esque. 

If I were to book any bands for the Roadhouse, I would have...

...booked none. Because there still haven't been a performance that I would not rather have replaced for some more meat to the storyline. 

Heh. How about bringing back Talking Heads (Stop Making Sense) then? and AC/DC for the sockets?

Talking Heads - The Overload

AC/DC - Thunderstruck

 

Works for me.

EC- Watching the Detectives

Superb song.

"She's filing her nails while they're dragging the lake".

You think you're alone then you realize you're in it

fear is here to stay, love is here for a visit

well they call it instant justice, when it's past the legal limit

someone's scratching at the window-

 

I wonder who is it....

 

 

Perfect. 

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 7:02 pm
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If I was booking bands for The Roadhouse I would have gone for:

Scott Walker / Swans / Zola Jesus / Fever Ray / Effi Briest / Connan Mockasin / Pharmakon / Shannon Funchess 

Some pretty good choices there! Most people I know have never heard of Connan Mockasin. Great musician. He's probably the reason as to why I didn't hate James' song too -- his vocals are a little bit Connan Mockasin-esque. 

If I were to book any bands for the Roadhouse, I would have...

...booked none. Because there still haven't been a performance that I would not rather have replaced for some more meat to the storyline. 

Heh. How about bringing back Talking Heads (Stop Making Sense) then? and AC/DC for the sockets?

Talking Heads - The Overload

AC/DC - Thunderstruck

 

Works for me.

EC- Watching the Detectives

Superb song.

"She's filing her nails while they're dragging the lake".

You think you're alone then you realize you're in it

fear is here to stay, love is here for a visit

well they call it instant justice, when it's past the legal limit

someone's scratching at the window-

 

I wonder who is it....

 

 

Perfect. 

Sung by Leland.

 
Posted : 16/08/2017 7:03 pm
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I thought that was a cracking song! Seems that as far as this thread is concerned, I have questionable taste in music *sticks tongue out*

 
Posted : 17/08/2017 6:50 am
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Posted by: Murat Erol Özkan

This may be more of a stretch, but there also are some possible references to 'Freddie Krueger' here: he was a maintenance man who tends a boiler room/furnaces like James, who is later burnt to death in that room as a result of his actions against the local townspeople, and now kills people in their dreams, turns them to nightmares.  The episode was about dreaming, James is still looking for his dreams at the roadhouse(going 'out west', much like he kept doing in the original series, going to California, etc., when Freddie is finding his dreams right in James' home in Twin Peaks, what James did not do) and James seemed shaken by the younger Freddie who was able to talk with the Fireman while he was not and still has a chance at realizing his dreams, and doing it a different way then James, by not going to the pub/roadhouse.  James is visibly shaken and hurt by Freddie's story, as if it is touching a sore spot, his failed dreams exposed, he could have done something different. Then James proceeds to the boiler room/furnaces(where BOB is found saying his crazy statement, also the home of Freddie Krueger and where he burned to death).  James is still trying to go all the time, 'go west', wildly looking to seduce a married woman, since he is now old and pressured by his birthday, since he still is obsessed with his exploits as a young person and trying to live them over and over again.  Then, at the roadhouse during the 'wild west' song, we see a member of the crowd going crazy dancing to the music, and this crowd member is dressed like Freddie Krueger, with the red and black horizontally striped shirt, going to the 'wild west' in dreams which can turn into nightmares if they go into BOB's 'wild west' momentum, like possibly James/BOB in the boiler room, the door he is looking at.

Also, the name of that 'wild west' movie The Wild Bunch also is close to the title of a movie about a biker that was also hinted at in Twin Peaks the Return: the wild one, Wally Brando the biker dressed like Marlon Brando in that movie, maybe a hint to James here and his modus operandi, since the biker in that movie remains 'wild' to the end, continues the same lifestyle.  James had his motorcycle accident, but cant get away from his old 'wild west' mode of operation, still 'looking west' to the roadhouse for salvation.

So Freddie Sykes may be able to stop James or convince him to stop the 'dangerous game he is playing' in a 'compromise with the world', even though Harry Truman was unable to, before he becomes BOB/Freddie Krueger in that boiler room.  It is possibly two ways of dealing with the question 'Who is the dreamer?', (there is no dreamer, everything going wrong James in original series when try to directly realize your dreams, but the idea of a dreamer lives on nonetheless as the product of dreaming, where you live, dreams to fix what is lacking in what you find given to you in the world, find love, justice, etc.): when confronted with this question, can go to the 'wild west', James here, or stop it and try to do something more genuine, 'help people', garden/tend the broken nature/law/'state of things as you find them' that is shattering the dreams in the first place, since if you dont fix this(agent cooper's task now too) you will never be able to directly realize your dreams.  And in the wild west movie 'the wild bunch' freddie sykes at the end convinces a wild bounty hunter to join the mexican revolution(from wikipedia)........

I think James is now at an impasse down in that boiler room after being confronted with his old dreams(via Freddie Sykes) that he gave up, he had been on sleepwalk mode for the past 25 years after shooting his blue rose tulpa following Maddie's death(just get on the bike and ride, etc.)....The question here, what will happen when James goes through the furnace door, what is going to be his fire, will it be black?

James can now go the way of Freddy Krueger/BOB, continuing to deny the blue rose dreams even though they are coming back with a vengeance inside him and mobilize that for destroying other's dreams, or he can join with Freddie Sykes, who in 'The Wild Bunch' convinced a worn out and wild bounty hunter to join the Mexican revolution, bring back the blue rose dreams and stand for them this time............either way, it is a return to the 'wild west', sleepwalking coming to an end, cannot avoid the 'blue rose dreams'.....and I think this is why we see Sarah Palmer after the boiler room/'what is going to be James' fire?' scene.....she was hiding from the orange jerky, in the house drinking, then went out into the orange world(the rule is to blindly desire enjoyment only, not the blue rose dreams, etc.) and confronted the 'truck drivers' who tore her family apart.....wild west returned.....she knows the orange jerky is no good, even though it is 'new', cannot avoid this, she knows 'its a damned bad story isnt it hawk?' and this is an advantage....

 
Posted : 17/08/2017 4:21 pm
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Oh Murat, I hope we have the opportunity to have a beer sometime.  🙂

 
Posted : 17/08/2017 4:41 pm
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Oh Murat, I hope we have the opportunity to have a beer sometime.  🙂

I'd love to enjoy a beer or 10 with most of you people.  

 
Posted : 17/08/2017 4:57 pm
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We can make that happen.  😀

 
Posted : 17/08/2017 4:59 pm
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Not unless they invent free air travel.

What little money I have, I spend on luxuries such as bread and shoes.  

 
Posted : 17/08/2017 5:05 pm
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I've liked most of the Roadhouse numbers, especially Chromatics and Au Revoir Simone. Of course it's a matter of taste, but as I wrote somewhere else on this forum I think the songs are part of the narrative as much as the Lynch-engineered sound, if one checks out the lyrics.

I even like most of the jazzy soundtrack, and I'm not usually a jazz fan. I miss the constant moody Badalamenti score of the original, but it was a completely different show.

I quite liked Lissie too. The singer did flail about too much in my opinion. As someone else said above, I was tempted to close my eyes and just enjoy the song, but I was afraid I'd miss some clue.

 
Posted : 18/08/2017 9:26 am
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Not unless they invent free air travel.

What little money I have, I spend on luxuries such as bread and shoes.  

I hear there is a tasty brew or two to be had in your neck of the woods. I hear the pints are very pinty as well. We'll all bring sleeping bags.

 
Posted : 18/08/2017 9:34 am
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Not unless they invent free air travel.

What little money I have, I spend on luxuries such as bread and shoes.  

I hear there is a tasty brew or two to be had in your neck of the woods. I hear the pints are very pinty as well. We'll all bring sleeping bags.

Sounds like a plan.  Hope you're not allergic to cats.  We have lots of 'em.

Oh, and two children.  But they seem like a thousand when they hit their stride.

 
Posted : 18/08/2017 10:27 am
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I like most if not all the Roadhouse performances, and I like how expectations are played with in regards to the ending of episodes. Sometimes the episodes end with a full song performance, and nothing else. Sometimes there is a scene occurring alongside the performance (Richard assaulting women, the many conversations taking place in booths). Sometimes the performances happen early, and then there's an additional scene, or most of an episode (Part 8), left. I also appreciate how sometimes the songs fit the theme of an episode, such as the song by James occurring in the episode we find out Ed and Norma still aren't together. I do think that stylistically the Chromatics work really well in TP, especially starting off the season with that refrain from Shadow: "for the last time, for the last time..."

Because we might not get anymore Twin Peaks! It might be the last time. 

 
Posted : 18/08/2017 2:01 pm
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I like most if not all the Roadhouse performances, and I like how expectations are played with in regards to the ending of episodes. Sometimes the episodes end with a full song performance, and nothing else. Sometimes there is a scene occurring alongside the performance (Richard assaulting women, the many conversations taking place in booths). Sometimes the performances happen early, and then there's an additional scene, or most of an episode (Part 8), left. I also appreciate how sometimes the songs fit the theme of an episode, such as the song by James occurring in the episode we find out Ed and Norma still aren't together. I do think that stylistically the Chromatics work really well in TP, especially starting off the season with that refrain from Shadow: "for the last time, for the last time..."

Because we might not get anymore Twin Peaks! It might be the last time. 

We can still hope for Mr C guesting with Judas Priest for Breakin' The Law.

I'd pay money to see that.

 
Posted : 18/08/2017 2:05 pm
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I actually think the music has been well suited this series. 

My only gripe was with the poor mining on this episode, although watching it again it's clear that's more to do with the sound in conjunction with the scene (bad setup/unrealistic sound to surroundings) than the actual performer doing a bad mime. 

 
Posted : 18/08/2017 5:05 pm
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I actually think the music has been well suited this series. 

My only gripe was with the poor mining on this episode, although watching it again it's clear that's more to do with the sound in conjunction with the scene (bad setup/unrealistic sound to surroundings) than the actual performer doing a bad mime. 

Poor mining?

You can blame the Tories for constantly underfunding our industries, running down our supplies until we're dependent on imports.

Oh, you meant miming?

Anyhow, it's not miming, it's lip-synching.  Miming is those annoying bastards with white faces.

HTH

😉

 
Posted : 18/08/2017 5:23 pm
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