What Mr C «NEEDS»  

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(@ame-solitaire)
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A theory is brewing in my head.

Mr C., might be lacking one important thing that he desperately needs if he wants to live for ever like the other Black Lodge occupants seem to do.

He needs a soul, a spirit.

That's why he needs to find Mother. To ask her for a soul/spirit. Just like the Tin Man in the Wizard of Oz.

Being a doppleganger just doesn't cut it.

Thoughts?

«That's the kind of girl to make you wish you spoke a little French».
- Gordon Cole.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 10:12 pm
(@samxtherapy)
Detective

I think he has one, or whatever passes for one with the Lodge gang.  What he needs is for the real Cooper to die, just as Cooper needs Mr C to die, as stated by Mike, when he was telling Coop to wake up.

Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum

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Posted : 09/08/2017 10:39 pm
(@ame-solitaire)
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He did specifically say to  Darya in episode 2 «This is what I want» and showed her the card.

Of course he wants Cooper dead or else he goes back to the Black lodge in «non-existence» I imagine.

I think there is something missing in Mr C compared for example, Bob or The Arm. It's like he is dead inside. No life...

 

«That's the kind of girl to make you wish you spoke a little French».
- Gordon Cole.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 11:06 pm
(@samxtherapy)
Detective

Good point.  Unless, of course, he thinks he can face down the creature, or kill it to take its place.  It's already established that he's not playing by the rules any more - nor is Bob - so maybe they intend to stage a coup.

OTOH, it may just be a new hairstyle he wants to try out. 😉

Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum

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Posted : 09/08/2017 11:10 pm
(@b-randy)
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Good point.  Unless, of course, he thinks he can face down the creature, or kill it to take its place.  It's already established that he's not playing by the rules any more - nor is Bob - so maybe they intend to stage a coup.

OTOH, it may just be a new hairstyle he wants to try out. 😉

Ha ha ironic since when I read the title and was reading the original post, I totally thought that Mr. C needs a new haircut.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 11:23 pm
(@b-randy)
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I think he's established that doesn't NEED anything. He wants something........really really badly.

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Posted : 09/08/2017 11:24 pm
(@ruskinowl)
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He doesn't NEED anything, Ray. He wants. 

If some Lodge inhabitants can take a soul (think BOB/Windom), then surely he doesn't need mother for this. Interesting thought, but no, I think mullet-man has another agenda.

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Posted : 10/08/2017 2:52 am
(@ranmacmh)
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All we know about Mother (experiment?) is that she can kill and she can create some corrupted form of life.  Mr. C already does a lot of killing so it must have something to do with what or how she creates.  Ray also mentioned that seeing Bob inside of him "might be the key to all of this."  Or something like that.  She created Bob, maybe she could do something like that again?  I don't know what he would get out of that, personally.  Just riding this train of thought out... 

 

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Posted : 10/08/2017 3:26 am
(@nikolaj_nielsen)
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I think what he wants is not a thing or a person. It's an event. Death descending on earth/TP. The black circle means death in native symbolism and the two horns resembles the twin peaks. Death (in the form of mother) descends between these. He wants Armageddon. 

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Posted : 10/08/2017 3:48 am
(@esther)
Lodger

Don't you think that this 'thing' is quite similar to Fat Man bomb in 1945?

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Posted : 10/08/2017 4:21 am
(@octaviolemos)
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You all don't want to know about that!

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Posted : 10/08/2017 5:49 am
(@buttercup)
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I noticed in the arm wresting scene that Mr. C's hand was dirty with oil, similar to the dirty men with beards.  What do you suppose that means? 

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Posted : 10/08/2017 9:14 am
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(@badalamenti-fan)
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher

I think he's established that doesn't NEED anything. He wants something........really really badly.

Well... he did say to Hutch that he needs "puppies and biscuits," i.e. Guns and cellphones.

in fact, after seeing him collect more phones from the Montana gang, I'm beginning to wonder if what he needs is a steady supply ...

there's a SIM-card body/soul metaphor in there, perhaps. Though I' m thinking it's more to do with electricity and telecommunications as vehicles for lodge evil ...

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Posted : 10/08/2017 9:30 am
(@samxtherapy)
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Posted by: buttercup

I noticed in the arm wresting scene that Mr. C's hand was dirty with oil, similar to the dirty men with beards.  What do you suppose that means? 

That he's not too concerned with personal hygiene.  Take a look at scenes in earlier episodes.  He's dirty, greasy and generally unkempt.  Even his hair doesn't move about much, which suggests it's very dirty.

Coop, OTOH, is clean cut and meticulous.

Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum

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Posted : 10/08/2017 9:33 am
(@buttercup)
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Renzo should have made him wash his hands.

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Posted : 10/08/2017 9:57 am
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