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(@jeremy_christiansen)
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Bingo! Nice one man!

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 2:42 pm
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Posted by: pynchjan

Free association: 

This is the water - here is the sustenance/intoxication (like the corn)

this is the well - here is the source

drink full and descend - trying to satisfy (insatiable, always returning - hedonic treadmill / slippery slope) desire will lead to your downfall

the horse is the white of the eyes - you will find yourself straining like an eyes-bulging (Nietzschean) horse

and dark within - which will reveal and potentially leave you with the darkness of craving and dissatisfaction within.

 

PS: not sure anyone has mentioned the possible link to David Foster Wallace's This is the Water speech. He spent some time with Lynch on set and wrote an interesting (misleading) article about the experience.

 

Wow! I love your reading, intrigued by the Nietzschean horse/madness. That said, what did you find misleading about DFW's article? I thought it was compelling, even handed, and features the best clearest explanation of what a "Lynchian" aesthetic entails anywhere. (iirc, it could be paraphrased as "Locating the macabre in the mundane, where it always is in the first place.")

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 2:42 pm
(@b-randy)
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So Cooper never would have mentioned in when he was discussing Tibet? I don't have any recollection either way but it seems like a very Cooper word.  🙂

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 2:45 pm
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Posted by: Ric Bissell
Posted by: Randy Bowser
 
...H. P. Blavatsky and the Masters of Wisdom...

Hi Randy,

That's a very important reference, in my opinion.

Theosophy.  Those whoooo know divine wisdom.  😉

- /< /\ /> -

Ah, Theosophy.  I had their book, "Thought Forms" once, years ago.  I *think* it's available online as a free download, if you're in need of a good laugh.

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 2:57 pm
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher

So Cooper never would have mentioned in when he was discussing Tibet? I don't have any recollection either way but it seems like a very Cooper word.  🙂

Hi Brandy,

Well, Cooper was watching when Briggs showed him and Harry True-Man the tape of Windam Earle.  =:-O

- /< /\ /> -

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 3:23 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy
 
Ah, Theosophy.  I had their book, "Thought Forms" once, years ago.  I *think* it's available online as a free download, if you're in need of a good laugh.

Hi Deputy Sam,

Believe it or not, the first time I ever heard of Theosophy was in the late, lamented Young Indiana Jones TV show, of all places!  😉

- /< /\ /> -

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 3:28 pm
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Hi Deputy Sam,

Believe it or not, the first time I ever heard of Theosophy was in the late, lamented Young Indiana Jones TV show, of all places!  😉

- /< /\ /> -

EW! Never speak of such things again.  It never happened!

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 3:35 pm
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Posted by: Ric Bissell
Posted by: Brandy Fisher

So Cooper never would have mentioned in when he was discussing Tibet? I don't have any recollection either way but it seems like a very Cooper word.  🙂

Hi Brandy,

Well, Cooper was watching when Briggs showed him and Harry True-Man the tape of Windam Earle.  =:-O

- /< /\ /> -

Not in any of his convos about Tibet or dreams or anything like that?

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 3:36 pm
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Posted by: Ric Bissell
Posted by: SamXTherapy
 
Ah, Theosophy.  I had their book, "Thought Forms" once, years ago.  I *think* it's available online as a free download, if you're in need of a good laugh.

Hi Deputy Sam,

Believe it or not, the first time I ever heard of Theosophy was in the late, lamented Young Indiana Jones TV show, of all places!  😉

- /< /\ /> -

Never heard of that show.  As I mentioned previously in another thread, I don't do television.  Twin Peaks and Doctor Who are my exceptions.

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 3:40 pm
(@colin_basterfield)
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Posted by: pynchjan

Free association: 

This is the water - here is the sustenance/intoxication (like the corn)

this is the well - here is the source

drink full and descend - trying to satisfy (insatiable, always returning - hedonic treadmill / slippery slope) desire will lead to your downfall

the horse is the white of the eyes - you will find yourself straining like an eyes-bulging (Nietzschean) horse

and dark within - which will reveal and potentially leave you with the darkness of craving and dissatisfaction within.

 

PS: not sure anyone has mentioned the possible link to David Foster Wallace's This is the Water speech. He spent some time with Lynch on set and wrote an interesting (misleading) article about the experience.

 

The DFW speech is wonderful - there are a zillion links to it if you google. Here's one of them. Well worth 22 minutes of your life - imho -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrOL-ydFMI

The essay about DFW's time on the set of Lost Highway is a challenging read.

I hadn't made this connection, but like this series, the discourse is opening lots of doorways / portals in us all.

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 3:57 pm
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All well and good, dear friends. I also like poetry and literature and Nietzsche and philosophy and Tibet, but these dark sorcerers and their Devil GodMother/Experiment have in the meantime gutted quite a few skulls: Ruth, Sam, Tracey, William and a load of countryfolk in 1956. They have to stop killing my namesakes, eating their eyes and brains, dammit!

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 4:52 pm
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Posted by: William De Bruijn

From the archives of Project Bluebook: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3lDx8vsVDQ

Excellent, William De Bruijn! - It seemed likely that if Dugpas were ever mentioned in the show, that Windom Earl may have said it. There we go - in the Project Blue Book archive video. I never understood what he was saying when he used the term Dugpas - it immediately went out of my head. Thanks for this revelation!

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 5:40 pm
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Who knows, but it's very difficult to imagine David Lynch tolerating that writer, let alone needing to borrow from that joyless mess.

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 6:51 pm
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Speaking of the Dugpas, this news story regarding a primary school in Zimbabwe caught my eye the other day:

MAYHEM rocked Riverside Primary School in Gweru on Monday as pupils were hit by mass hysteria before collapsing.

Four pupils fell into a trance then collapsed at the school grounds. School authorities had to call in the pupils’ parents to take their children home.

One of the parents only identified as Edmore whose child was also hit by the hysteria spoke to B-Metro.

“I was first called on Friday by the school authorities to fetch my daughter because she had collapsed. When I arrived there, she lay still as if she was dead and her body was stiff. I took her home where she woke up. She told me that she saw people who were wearing black clothes praying at the devil’s corner. I inquired from the other pupils what the devil’s corner is and they showed me some spot at the playground,” said Edmore.

He was to go to the school again on Monday.

 

“I was also called again this Monday after she (daughter) and other three pupils collapsed. It was serious and froth was coming out of her mouth. We took her to Totonga Clinic where one nurse said they attend to a lot of pupils having the same problem from the same school. A teacher at the school advised me to transfer my daughter like other parents,” he added.

 
Posted : 25/07/2017 6:54 pm
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"The horse is of white eyes and dark within."

Horse might be also the host through which "water" is acquired. 

To quote BOB, just before he left Leland:

Leland, Leland, you've been a good vehicle and I've enjoyed the ride. But now he's weak and full of holes. It's almost time to shuffle off to Buffalo!

 
Posted : 26/07/2017 6:01 am
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