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(@brian_hardin_ii)
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Or not enough coffee

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Posted : 15/05/2018 4:00 pm
(@b-randy)
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I too have ten wondered if Lunch and Frost ever read these things and just laugh. And wonder if we're hacked out on Sparkle.

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Posted : 15/05/2018 8:38 pm
(@caemeron)
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Well, she was an American girl
Raised on promises
She couldn't help thinkin'
That there was a little more to life somewhere else
After all it was a great big world
With lots of places to run to
And if she had to die tryin'
She had one little promise she was gonna keep

O yeah, all right
Take it easy, baby
Make it last all night
She was an American girl

Well it was kind of cold that night,
She stood alone on her balcony
Yeah, she could hear the cars roll by,
Out on 441 like waves crashin' on the beach
And for one desperate moment
There he crept back in her memory
God it's so painful when something that's so close
Is still so far out of reach

O yeah, all right
Take it easy, baby
Make it last all night
She was an American girl

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Posted : 16/05/2018 1:00 am Brandy Fisher liked
(@julie_loader)
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Posted by: Lucas Bracci
Posted by: Julie Loader

I guess she has been in the purple room all this time, then?

But Lynch name her "the american girl". Why ?

 

There must be a reason.

He could've used an unknown actress to play that part.

But he chose Ronette (sorry can't think of her real name  😞)

But why not call the character Ronette?

Aaaaargh! 

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Posted : 16/05/2018 2:10 am
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Just saw on a blog somewhere....

That Annie Blackburn could be a lodge entity or a tulpa.....

BLACK

BURN

!!!!

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Posted : 16/05/2018 2:12 am
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Sorry for posting the lyrics without explanation, but I do sort of think American Girl is intended as a reference to the Tom Petty song. She is a woman, not a girl, but they don't want to reference American Woman - that's a different thing. Petty's lyrics resonate thematically, I think. I know this may be a stretch, but it is the best I've got.

I have also been thinking that perhaps American Girl is to Ronette as Carrie Page is to Laura. I don't know how helpful that thought is, but it is maybe something to work with.

(And since we're on the topic, I have to mention that Phoebe Augustine gets the award for best backwards Lodge talking - she's impressive there)

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Posted : 16/05/2018 2:27 pm Brandy Fisher liked
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Posted by: Cæmeron Crain

Sorry for posting the lyrics without explanation, but I do sort of think American Girl is intended as a reference to the Tom Petty song. She is a woman, not a girl, but they don't want to reference American Woman - that's a different thing. Petty's lyrics resonate thematically, I think. I know this may be a stretch, but it is the best I've got.

I have also been thinking that perhaps American Girl is to Ronette as Carrie Page is to Laura. I don't know how helpful that thought is, but it is maybe something to work with.

(And since we're on the topic, I have to mention that Phoebe Augustine gets the award for best backwards Lodge talking - she's impressive there)

Dude, I have been singing that song all day!

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Posted : 16/05/2018 7:24 pm Cæmeron Crain liked
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Me too

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Posted : 16/05/2018 7:36 pm
(@brian_hardin_ii)
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I pulled the video up on youtube when this was posted...  Listened to it on loop for about an hour...

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Posted : 17/05/2018 10:59 am Brandy Fisher and Cæmeron Crain liked
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I have also been thinking that perhaps American Girl is to Ronette as Carrie Page is to Laura. I don't know how helpful that thought is, but it is maybe something to work with.

 

I was thinking it has to be same reason that Diane was sent to purple room and turned into Naido..... Ronette was put there by same person..... Fireman?

American girl didn't look different to Ronette, though.

Naido seemed to know that pulling the lever on the electric bell thingy would send her to earth and change the circuit  in the room.

Ronette warned him to hurry up and go before her mother came.

 

 Sorry Caemeron Crain, I didn't mean to remove your name from your quote!

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Posted : 17/05/2018 4:42 pm
(@caemeron)
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Posted by: Julie Loader
 

I have also been thinking that perhaps American Girl is to Ronette as Carrie Page is to Laura. I don't know how helpful that thought is, but it is maybe something to work with.

 

I was thinking it has to be same reason that Diane was sent to purple room and turned into Naido..... Ronette was put there by same person..... Fireman?

American girl didn't look different to Ronette, though.

Naido seemed to know that pulling the lever on the electric bell thingy would send her to earth and change the circuit  in the room.

Ronette warned him to hurry up and go before her mother came.

 

 Sorry Caemeron Crain, I didn't mean to remove your name from your quote!

I am thinking that Naido's condition is the result of what Mr. C did, somehow. Could be that the Fireman snagged her from the Dutchman's or something, though, and that this "mansion room" is like a kind of witness protection, as I think I have seen someone else put it. It does look like where the Fireman is in Part 8, and I did hear the klaxon from that episode when I saw Part 3 at MoMA.

Was Ronette perhaps raped by Leland in the alternate timeline? I am pretty sure the Final Dossier still has her being assaulted that night in the version where Laura disappeared. That could be a connection, if both Diane and Ronette were raped by a man inhabited by BOB... Thoughts?

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Posted : 17/05/2018 6:54 pm
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Posted by: Brian Hardin II

I pulled the video up on youtube when this was posted...  Listened to it on loop for about an hour...

Did that help get it out of your head?

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Posted : 17/05/2018 9:14 pm
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Rosette/American Girl.

I was always under the notion that the AG name was used because she/Ronette could have been any girl in small town America, bad choices, blind community, possibly bad homelife, perhaps a crazy scary mother who pounds on her door, etc.  Ronette was not that pivotal to any of the story. She could have been anyone,anywhere, anytime. Her name was unimportant and thus obsolete.

And where do bad girls end up? Well that depends on your philosophy, understanding, and/or level of empathy.

Maybe that is where Laura would have ultimately resided had she not put on the ring.

She was an American girl, raised on promises......

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Posted : 17/05/2018 9:25 pm Jocelyn Rowe and Lucas Bracci liked
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Posted by: Brandy Fisher

Rosette/American Girl.

I was always under the notion that the AG name was used because she/Ronette could have been any girl in small town America, bad choices, blind community, possibly bad homelife, perhaps a crazy scary mother who pounds on her door, etc.  Ronette was not that pivotal to any of the story. She could have been anyone,anywhere, anytime. Her name was unimportant and thus obsolete.

And where do bad girls end up? Well that depends on your philosophy, understanding, and/or level of empathy.

Maybe that is where Laura would have ultimately resided had she not put on the ring.

She was an American girl, raised on promises......

Ooh, I like this. "Laura is the one" but let's not forget about Ronette. This could happen to any girl in America.

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Posted : 17/05/2018 10:21 pm Brandy Fisher liked
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It reminds me of one of the more memorable quotes from Bobby (at least to me) at Laura's funeral when goes on his tirade with " You wanna know who killed Laura?! We all did." And goes jato how they all knew she was an trouble......

A blind, deaf, and dumb community.... 

But no one seemed to be that concerned about Ronette.....

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Posted : 18/05/2018 12:27 am Joseph McMurty and Cæmeron Crain liked
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