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(@s0methingvagu3)
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I haven't seen a dedicated thread, though I might have missed it and lacked the will to find it. There is another 'clue' on the plane that Cole and Co. are on board of. This may have also been discussed in other threads and dismissed but, 

The reg number of the plane is backwards on the engine. Why is this plane such a focus for hidden meanings? First the flashing windows, and now this. It could be nothing, or it could be something. Is there a significance? 

Before anyone wastes their time, N450GD is the reg of a real plane. It is a GIV-X manufactured by Gulfstream Aerospace. The mystery is not in the combination of digits, but rather the backward nature. I've not been able to back-trace any significance to the plane itself. 

PS. When you google DG054N, and go to images, there is an image of an Owl ! It looks like a fancier, more jeweled version of the Owl in Dougie's kitchen. This is a hilarious coincidence. 

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Posted : 14/07/2017 10:58 am
Deja Lee, SamXTherapy, 1stDragonarse and 2 people liked
(@samxtherapy)
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It's been discussed - somewhat - but nobody up to now (AFAIK) found the owl connection.  Spooky!

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Posted : 14/07/2017 2:10 pm
(@samxtherapy)
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Here's something...

Dougie's age isn't given, is it?  I'm going to guess - seeing as ages are always somewhat mutable in fiction - he's about 54 (obviously not his real age, since he was artificial), and I presume Coop to be the same.  IRL, Kyle M is 14 months older than me, but I guess his character to be a few years younger, so 54 would be about right. 

Right, that's all that bit wrapped up so what about the N?  Ohhh... Nevada!

What do I win?

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Posted : 14/07/2017 2:16 pm
(@mj_gilbert)
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I am assuming that it reads backwards because they are using the same stock video as before, but reversed to indicated the plane is headed in the other direction. I would RATHER believe it is a clue, though...

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Posted : 14/07/2017 2:26 pm
(@samxtherapy)
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Nah, they'd just as easily CG out the numbers and put new ones in there.  Believe me, it's so easy to do and, as we all know, Frost and Lynch are obsessive about detail.  Having had a firm hand throughout, they wouldn't let something like that go by.

Anything as sloppy as that is a clue of some sort, count on it.

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Posted : 14/07/2017 2:29 pm
(@pieter)
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I agree, Sam. It's easier to fix that in post than it is to add alternating white masks onto airplane windows for a couple of seconds. Yet another example of intentional mirroring and backward things, symbolizing duality and opposites.

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Posted : 14/07/2017 2:37 pm
(@myn0k)
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Someone needs to put together a separate wiki page detailing every nuanced detail like this for each episode 🙂

I don't spot things like this. So I'm glad other people do!

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Posted : 14/07/2017 2:43 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy 

Right, that's all that bit wrapped up so what about the N?  Ohhh... Nevada!

What do I win?

Agree that DL wouldn't allow a simple stock photo reversal to stand... yrev, yrev interesting, though.

And the "N"?  Think that's the initial letter on most (all) aircraft number in North America, no?  Not sure.

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Posted : 14/07/2017 4:17 pm
(@samxtherapy)
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Posted by: SamXTherapy 

Right, that's all that bit wrapped up so what about the N?  Ohhh... Nevada!

What do I win?

Agree that DL wouldn't allow a simple stock photo reversal to stand... yrev, yrev interesting, though.

And the "N"?  Think that's the initial letter on most (all) aircraft number in North America, no?  Not sure.

Yep, maybe so but I don't think the N is as prosaic as the reg code in this instance.  If my wild idea - I was just extemporizing (yes, I have a license for it) -  is correct, the N could stand for anything but its original intention.

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Posted : 14/07/2017 4:55 pm
(@samxtherapy)
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Just as I posted that last one, another idea occurred to me...

Suppose, somehow the plane is being used as a means of communicating with either the good guys (Bureau, LEA etc) or the bad guys (DoppelCoop, Bob, Ike et al) and assuming the messages are reversed, then maybe, just maybe the flashing window code makes sense if it is also reversed?

One of the ideas is that the flashing windows are binary values, and that these correspond to ASCII codes, either in base 10 or Hex.  How about looking at the values if all the bit groups are the reverse?

It's possibly nothing at all but worth a few minutes trial and error.  I'll report back.

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Posted : 14/07/2017 5:01 pm
(@samxtherapy)
Detective

Meh.  Nothing conclusive:

<

[space]

[null]

Shift Out

<

[null]

<

8

That's all I got before I decided to quit.  Now maybe you could interpret that as a message that something's shifted out from "Space" to "Null" but I guess that's a leap of logic too far.

Maybe it makes more sense in Octal or Hex.  Beats me.

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Posted : 14/07/2017 5:14 pm
(@s0methingvagu3)
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Thanks for the input everyone. I am most excited to see what much more Cole's arc can give us. 

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Posted : 15/07/2017 6:27 am
(@elad-repooc)
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Here's something...

Dougie's age isn't given, is it?  I'm going to guess - seeing as ages are always somewhat mutable in fiction - he's about 54 (obviously not his real age, since he was artificial), and I presume Coop to be the same.  IRL, Kyle M is 14 months older than me, but I guess his character to be a few years younger, so 54 would be about right. 

Right, that's all that bit wrapped up so what about the N?  Ohhh... Nevada!

According to Wikipedia, Dale Cooper was born in 1954, making him 60 years old in Season 3:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Cooper

I never quite understood why Dale Cooper was supposed to be 5 years older than the actor who played him. Maybe they thought 30 was slightly too young for an FBI Special Agent of such high standing, so they made him 35 instead. 

 

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Posted : 15/07/2017 6:58 am
(@samxtherapy)
Detective

Ah.  That rather blows me idea out of the water, don't it?

Oh well.

Update on the decoding malarkey...

I used the Nick Sharratt transcript for the above stuff but I noticed it's different from the other two.  So then I used the first one, the dots, but it still came out as garbage in either base 10 or Hex.  Octal didn't work because - of course - there's no number 8 in Oct.  Duh.

Back to the drawing board on both counts, methinks.

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Posted : 15/07/2017 7:13 am
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