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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Perhaps he can be lured up to the Roadhouse with a promise of playing a gig there, then get shot to bits in slow-mo Sam Peckinpah style to the tune of "Heartattack and Vine".  Then, Tom Waits steps out from behind the Roadhouse with a shotgun in hand, saying, "Tricked you, fucker!"

This here tv script malarkey is dead easy; I should take it up. 😉

And then urinates on him afterwards. Has to urinate on him. 

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Posted : 12/07/2017 1:35 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Perhaps he can be lured up to the Roadhouse with a promise of playing a gig there, then get shot to bits in slow-mo Sam Peckinpah style to the tune of "Heartattack and Vine".  Then, Tom Waits steps out from behind the Roadhouse with a shotgun in hand, saying, "Tricked you, fucker!"

This here tv script malarkey is dead easy; I should take it up. 😉

And then urinates on him afterwards. Has to urinate on him. 

ROFL!

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Posted : 12/07/2017 1:38 pm
(@daledougahole)
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If he's playing a part at all, it'll be something to do with Shelly Johnson. Maybe he'll help her pull her daughter out of the gutter.

Dad, dug another hole! It's filling up with water.

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Posted : 12/07/2017 9:42 pm
(@daledougahole)
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Either way, he's only around for nostalgia. He's a pretty ordinary actor. 

Dad, dug another hole! It's filling up with water.

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Posted : 12/07/2017 9:43 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

The more I think about that song, the more I dislike it.  Even allowing for the fact that it's an obvious steal from the Bee Gees' "How Can You Mend A Broken Heart" (I cannot stand the Bee Gees but that's not a bad song), it's grotesquely, uniquely horrible.  Not the worst song ever written...

but fucking close.

As for his singing voice, it's not that difficult to do, unless you're Tom Waits.  Even I can manage to do the squeaky thing (on a good day), although I've lost some of my range to cigarettes, whiskey and wild, wild women over the years.

As an aside, Tom Waits would be a perfect addition to the cast and as a musical contributor.  There's a lot of similarities between his stuff and the things that run through the Twin Peaks continuity.

Perhaps Tom can whittle that song into kindlin'

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Posted : 12/07/2017 10:56 pm
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I'd be fine if we never saw James Hurley again. Useless and annoying character. And I clearly don't need to get into his singing since that has been wonderful addressed.

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Posted : 12/07/2017 11:39 pm
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Posted by: 2MannieQuinn6

Other than being cool I'm not sure. Maybe they'll have him mime another song whilst play-acting on a guitar with those girls who talked about zebras and penguins. 

( original TP ) A guitar & two mics plugged into a guitar amp. "James is so DUMB." - Laura

Fire Walk With Me

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Posted : 13/07/2017 1:46 am
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Notice that BOB always hovers right around James, as is shown here, but he doesn't take notice. James and BOB, one and the same.  James' reign of terror: Harold Smith killed, Jacobi beaten into a heart attack, several deaths from his affair with the older woman, nearly corrupted Maddie into following Laura(getting Maddie to take the ring) right before Maddie's death, participating with Donna in an illicit affair that made the Laura tragedy trivial by idealizing Laura and using her for his own narcissism.  

James runs red lights(sparkwood and 21) in his dreams of Laura, killing people in his wake, something is burning James, Laura is dead and was corrupted to the core.  Shelly uses James to look at Red, James is after another corrupted girl(the stillness of the formica table top, twin peaks corrupted to the core, no savior Laura). Everything is not alright James.....you have not done anything about it......

Laura and James: James stole the corn, the thread will be torn Mr. Hurley, Its him, its James.............

 

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Posted : 14/07/2017 10:55 am
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James IS an easy rider, a small Mexican ChiWOWWOW.......

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Posted : 14/07/2017 11:20 am
(@samxtherapy)
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You Sir, are the genius of tangential thinking and linking. ?

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Posted : 14/07/2017 12:11 pm
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Baudelaire, flowers of evil, evil of the community not solving its problems: 'the finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he does not exist'; Laura and James are flowers providing cover for BOB(and sacrificed to him by the community, the true tragedy of Laura)(white and black intercourse, the obscene pact), provide BOB cover from the community(but bobby spotted him, and James became violent against uncovering BOB and fixing the community)that everything is alright, makes BOB livable(James is still cool, Laura is the homecoming queen, long dead nostalgia, problems never solved, BOB and woodsmen continue to feed as the boring slow decay of the apocalypse slowly creeps over the formica table, answered by stillness).  Notice how James and Laura both provoke violent BOB like reactions to feed off of them while simultaneously providing the 'bad' people with a promise of cover and salvation where there is nothing but a mess and chaos waiting...(Jacques insisting that they are all 'whores', Donna/Shelly get to play bad girl Laura when James shows up to provide cover that everything is OK, that no matter what they do they will be saved....like BOB saved by Laura).....the thread must be torn, the circle broken.....the problems taken seriously and dealt with.....

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Posted : 14/07/2017 12:36 pm
(@samxtherapy)
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I have to, respectfully, disagree with you on your assessment of James.  He is definitely not evil, not an agent of evil, nor is he the personification, manifestation of evil, otherwise known as Satan/Old Nick/Beelzebub/Lucifer et ad nauseum.

See, the old saying goes "The Devil has all the best tunes" and seeing as he's already inflicted a tune on us that's so very, very far from being right at the bottom of the worst of all the tunes that could possibly be considered by the best, even if you were a blind drunk, high as a kite, tone deaf idiot in a wind tunnel during a storm, there's no possible way he could be evil.  That song is so unremittingly, hideously bad, James really must be a good guy.  A moping idiot, yes.  A moody, dopey big girl's blouse, yes.  Bad?  Not a hope in... hell.

QED. 

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Posted : 14/07/2017 4:07 pm
(@groofay)
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I kinda hope, for nostalgia's sake, that James gets more than that half-minute of screen time in the premiere, but other than that I can't care much.

I think Shelley's line "James is cool. He's always been cool." was the perfect parting shot to his character, precisely because he never once approached "cool" at any point in the original series.

And when I first heard Shelley utter that line, I remembered that god-awful song, blacked out, and when I came to, half my neighborhood had somehow burned to the ground. But that's another story.

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Posted : 14/07/2017 8:03 pm
(@murat_erol_ozkan)
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I guess we will see over the course of the next 9 episodes what James develops into, I am guessing he might relate with Gerstien Hayward, Ed, Nadine, Red, Shelly and her friend, and maybe even with Becky, who I think will may get tied up with Red as well due to her habit; lots of potential conflicts laying in wait.  Also, thought that song scene was well done and had a lot of depth: 'romance' with a very cruel underside to Donna as well, who got beat by Laura again, who she was trying to be and compete with; really brings to question James' sincerity, and definitely no real love going on there.

And as to James being evil, these suspicions might end up pointing to him being evil, remember this: why did the log lady tell cooper that 'its happening again' and its happening at the roadhouse, while maddy was being murdered, and why did she bring cooper to the roadhouse at that time, what was going on there while BOB/Leland was murdering Maddie?  Bobby was at the bar looking distraught, not sure of and questioning the world, and was standing next to the room service waiter who told Cooper, 'Im so sorry' after Maddie was being killed. 

There was a red song playing about what you let into your heart, Bobby was questioning this, thinking about how the town is not right, questioning everything......all the while on the other side of the room James was preventing this type of questioning and seducing Donna....while BOB kills, James engages in seduction.  Donna is initially sad because her and James interventions led to the death of Harold Smith, James prevents her doubts and brings her back to romantic engagement during Maddie's murder.  Donna tells James, we caused his death, I think he was hurt inside; then James responds by saying 'everyone is hurt inside, so its not our fault'.  James engages in behavior that has led to the death and serious injury of various people and doesnt give any of it a second thought, why?  James was left by his father as a child and his mother is a promiscuous drunk, he is hurt inside.....everything is 'white on the surface and black within', something James is deeply initiated into and does not even question, but even seeks to uphold against Bobby's interventions, James' revenge is to impose on the world his pain, with a logic something like, if I am hurt then it doesnt matter if I hurt people who are not hurt like me, who have not suffered like me, anything to feel good, and these people cant complain, black within is what is there, nothing can be done about it, evil...........

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Posted : 14/07/2017 8:41 pm
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Nah, if anything he's going to turn out to be the hero who saves the day idiot who makes a pointless and ultimately fatal gesture in order to look cool and save someone into the bargain.  It will fail miserably, he'll die in agony and people will say,

"That's what you get for singing that bloody awful song, you tosser!"

I can only hope.

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Posted : 14/07/2017 9:47 pm
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