I like this version of Bobby Briggs  

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(@roberto_bella)
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Sometimes in life the worst kids are really the best kids once they resolve their personal issues. I like the choice to make Bobby a well-adjusted adult who follows in his father's footsteps, as if by fate. And I'm enjoying Dana's shift to play it this way.

The new series sometimes feels like the original (ep. 9) and at other times feels like something much more troubling and cosmic (ep. 8).

Even if the final 9 episodes totally stink (which they won't) it's been a fun thrill to return to this world after 25+ years. Least expected TV revival ever.

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Posted : 10/07/2017 5:00 pm
(@aaron_c_wade)
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Bobby still has a mischievous and slightly snarky quality about him, but it's a lot more subdued behind responsibility. It's very intriguing looking at an appropriate aging of the character.

I've seen some movies where actors come back in a much later sequel to play the same character 2o years later and they don't act anything like they used to. And to quote Diane, "there's something here or what isn't here" that they're missing. 

So yes, major kudos to Dana Ashbrook for showing us a seasoned and resourceful Bobby Briggs.

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Posted : 10/07/2017 6:13 pm
(@samxtherapy)
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Yup, the character as portrayed is a believable development.  There's a real depth to the character, giving a real sense of continuity, as if 25 years really have gone by and a lot happened in that time.

It's an excellent showcase for both Mr Ashbrook's acting ability and the strength of the writing.

Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum

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Posted : 10/07/2017 6:44 pm
(@jocelyn)
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He's ok. But he had a stronger personality when he was young. In fact, he was the only one of those younger guys who had any personality at all. He seems so subdued now..i wonder what kind of life he has outside the sheriffs dept.

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Posted : 10/07/2017 6:48 pm
(@ranmacmh)
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I loved this last episode not only for the growth and change in Bobby's storyline, but Ben's too. 

For Bobby that moment where his dad describes the dream he had about his future is such a beautiful moment for those characters and such a strong emotional beat in the season.  I loved seeing the outcome of that moment 25 years later with his mother included. 

And Ben Horne is a difficult character to root for because, lets be honest, despite all his quirkyness in the second season he's pimping young girls out in One Eyed Jacks over the border and breaking them in himself. *BARF*  Then at the end of season two he goes through that whole "How can I be good?  What does it mean to be good?  Being good is really hard!" storyline that you can barely take seriously.

But then he had that scene with his assistant and I was shocked by how that went. He looked like an addict staring his vice in the face. In the end I was so touched because even Ben seems to have grown and changed over 25 years.  I hope nothing changes that in the rest of the season because "You're a good man," is such a perfect punctuation to that story.  Even if it does, I just loved that moment.

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Posted : 10/07/2017 10:59 pm
(@samxtherapy)
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Posted by: Jocelyn Rowe

He's ok. But he had a stronger personality when he was young. In fact, he was the only one of those younger guys who had any personality at all. He seems so subdued now..i wonder what kind of life he has outside the sheriffs dept.

I disagree.  He seems like a guy who is comfortable in his own skin now.  Not trying too hard to be anything or anyone, just himself.  That's more personality than any over indulgent drama queen or moody angst-ridden fool.

Given his options way back, he could have done much worse.  He seems to have achieved a calmness and maturity now.

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Posted : 11/07/2017 7:55 am
(@spyros)
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I love this Bobby and i liked young Bobby too!
It looks like he has changed a lot, well.. he became a man now after 25 years but again he found his way, i just wonder what happened between him and Shelly..

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Posted : 11/07/2017 7:58 am
(@roberto_bella)
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Posted by: Jocelyn Rowe

He's ok. But he had a stronger personality when he was young. In fact, he was the only one of those younger guys who had any personality at all. He seems so subdued now..i wonder what kind of life he has outside the sheriffs dept.

He was definitely more 'spicy' as a teen. It was fun to watch him be bad in the original run.

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Posted : 11/07/2017 11:23 am
(@aiuola)
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OK, it seems he's changed, but what about that duality most characters had in the original run, Bobby included? It seems now everyone is either pure good or pure bad, nobody has second lives, lovers, well hidden secrets, etc. Well, except Cooper, whose sides are now literally split, and the South Dakota crowd, but they're all either dead or crying in prison now... as much as I obviously sympathise with this mature good Bobby more than with his teenage prick self, I think he was a more complex character then than what we've seen of his older self now. And I hope we'll see more so he gets more complex again. Same for many other characters.

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Posted : 11/07/2017 1:29 pm
(@ric_bissell)
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Posted by: Christen Phillips

For Bobby that moment where his dad describes the dream he had about his future is such a beautiful moment for those characters and such a strong emotional beat in the season.

Hi Christen,

I loved that scene between Bobby and Major Briggs in the original series, too.

But let's not forget why Bobby had the reaction he did.  At that point in his young life he had committed two murders - the one described in The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer and the one shown in FWWM. 

Major Briggs was the kind of man that even a son like Bobby could respect for his intellect and his wisdom.  So, when the Major predicted such a bright future for Bobby  - even though his life at that point was quickly spiraling downward toward his own personal Black Lodge - I think Bobby believed it.  He was overwhelmed with emotion - belief, disbelief and relief - all at the same time.  In my opinion, some of the best acting Dana Ashbrook ever did.  🙂

Now watch, Bobby will be shown to be up to his nostrils with Chad and Richard Horne in the Chinese designer drug trade.  The transport of which he was supposed to be monitoring for Sheriff Frank Truman with cameras in the forests around Twin Peaks (and finding nothing).  =:-O

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That's strange - even for Cooper

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Posted : 11/07/2017 1:54 pm
(@ranmacmh)
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Posted by: Ric Bissell
Posted by: Christen Phillips

For Bobby that moment where his dad describes the dream he had about his future is such a beautiful moment for those characters and such a strong emotional beat in the season.

Hi Christen,

I loved that scene between Bobby and Major Briggs in the original series, too.

But let's not forget why Bobby had the reaction he did.  At that point in his young life he had committed two murders - the one described in The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer and the one shown in FWWM. 

Major Briggs was the kind of man that even a son like Bobby could respect for his intellect and his wisdom.  So, when the Major predicted such a bright future for Bobby  - even though his life at that point was quickly spiraling downward toward his own personal Black Lodge - I think Bobby believed it.  He was overwhelmed with emotion - belief, disbelief and relief - all at the same time.  In my opinion, some of the best acting Dana Ashbrook ever did.  🙂

Now watch, Bobby will be shown to be up to his nostrils with Chad and Richard Horne in the Chinese designer drug trade.  The transport of which he was supposed to be monitoring for Sheriff Frank Truman with cameras in the forests around Twin Peaks (and finding nothing).  =:-O

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I know!!  I'm really *hoping* he's not mixed up in the drug trade right now, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.  I have to suspend my "ah how far you've come!" feelings until the season wraps up so I'm not too disappointed. 😀

And I'm actually glad you brought up the murders because it's been bothering me whether one is canon or the other, but it didn't occur to me that both could be canon at the same time since they only ever reference "Bobby killing a guy."  Bobby was in a pretty dark place, but I didn't feel like he was very good at being the bad guy. 

I honestly thought that scene of him killing the guy and "burying" him in FWWM was a crack up though.  Dana Ashbrook is so fun to watch. 

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Posted : 11/07/2017 9:20 pm
(@ric_bissell)
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Posted by: Christen Phillips
Posted by: Ric Bissell
Posted by: Christen Phillips

For Bobby that moment where his dad describes the dream he had about his future is such a beautiful moment for those characters and such a strong emotional beat in the season.

Hi Christen,

I loved that scene between Bobby and Major Briggs in the original series, too.

But let's not forget why Bobby had the reaction he did.  At that point in his young life he had committed two murders - the one described in The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer and the one shown in FWWM. 

Major Briggs was the kind of man that even a son like Bobby could respect for his intellect and his wisdom.  So, when the Major predicted such a bright future for Bobby  - even though his life at that point was quickly spiraling downward toward his own personal Black Lodge - I think Bobby believed it.  He was overwhelmed with emotion - belief, disbelief and relief - all at the same time.  In my opinion, some of the best acting Dana Ashbrook ever did.  🙂

Now watch, Bobby will be shown to be up to his nostrils with Chad and Richard Horne in the Chinese designer drug trade.  The transport of which he was supposed to be monitoring for Sheriff Frank Truman with cameras in the forests around Twin Peaks (and finding nothing).  =:-O

- /< /\ /> -

I know!!  I'm really *hoping* he's not mixed up in the drug trade right now, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.  I have to suspend my "ah how far you've come!" feelings until the season wraps up so I'm not too disappointed. 😀

And I'm actually glad you brought up the murders because it's been bothering me whether one is canon or the other, but it didn't occur to me that both could be canon at the same time since they only ever reference "Bobby killing a guy."  Bobby was in a pretty dark place, but I didn't feel like he was very good at being the bad guy. 

I honestly thought that scene of him killing the guy and "burying" him in FWWM was a crack up though.  Dana Ashbrook is so fun to watch. 

Hi Christen,

Yeah, I don't really think Bobby is involved in the drug trade.  Mainly because that would diminish Briggs standing as a man with special insights and mystical powers.  After all, how many people could communicate with Cooper in another dimension - after being decapitated!  If he can do that, predicting his son's future happiness should be child's play.

I don't know if the double murders are canon - maybe there should be a canonical list somewhere.  😉

I agree that Bobby was never very good being the bad guy.  I pin his descent into darkness squarely on the shoulders of Laura Palmer.  Also agree that the way Bobby was trying to bury the body in the woods - a tiny handful of dirt at a time - was funny.  Funny and sad and pathetic all at once.  🙂

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That's strange - even for Cooper

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Posted : 12/07/2017 9:32 am
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