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1956, A good year for a Rock N Roll Metaphor

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Apologies if this has been brought up previously(apart from by myself in another forum, I mean!), the events in the '1956' portion of the episode made me think that we witnessed a metaphor for the birth of Rock N'Roll, which is widely seen as having broken out into the mainstream that year.

We see an explicitly chaste young couple walking home discussing music, followed by scenes of more people in this time and place enjoying the easy listening style music of The Platters. This is is interupted by a 'Black' seeming white man(Just like Elvis was initially perceived!) reciting strange, hypnotic beautiful poetry which has a profound and specific effect on those who hear it, and aids in the sexualisation of the previously virginal young girl. The poetry itself refers to whiteness, and 'dark within' also.

I think this could definitely be a metaphor, but a humorous one about the way Rock N'Roll was initially perceived by the establishment. The fact that he literally destroys the minds of the most authoritative characters in the sequence would seem to back this up.

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 9:45 am
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I love it!  Whether or not the theory is true to the show, I don't know, but it's an awesome and insightful hypothesis.

That's what I love about this forum, all the amazing ideas that people come up with and intricate details they notice.  I don't know where I would be without all of you.

IMHO Twin Peaks fans are some of the most interesting people in the world.  😀

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 11:28 am
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Cool, glad you like it! 🙂 I'm just chuffed that I've come up with a coherent and easily explained fan theory all on my own to talk about. Usually, its something I've picked up from all the forums and podcasts abut the show!

Yeah, its great to see the fans, old and new, come together to appreciate and enhance the enjoyment of what is becoming one of the most seminal art and entertainment events(and unique comeback) in the history of the internet, and perhaps even television. 😀

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 12:06 pm
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I don't agree with the "sexualized" interpretation at all.  She's an innocent girl, violated by a creature.  That's not sexualized, that's rape.

Overall the theory is coherent but I don't think it's correct.  Good and plausible but not something I believe is right.  IMO, of course.

 

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 12:18 pm
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Rape is a disgusting violent and invasive act, but it is most assuredly sexual. Unfortunately, both in this world and the universe of Twin Peaks, it is the brings the end of innocence through an awakening of sexual instincts for a disturbing amount of unfortunate people, Laura Palmer included.

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 12:35 pm
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I didn't read sexualization as anything but the corruption of the girl, in the way rock and roll was considered corrupting the youth. This does not make her corrupt just as I have argued that Laura was not corrupt. So I guess I read it more as a synonym and metaphor.

However, many would argue with the term "sexual instincts" in the later part of the argument  I think it brings around survivalist instincts, possibly even predatory instincts. Laura showed both of these although many want to talk about what a bad person she was.

Digressing a bit, I really hope that what we saw last episode was not the White Lodge throwing her to the proverbial wolves.  That creates for  me a deep level of despair that I can't seem to explain......yet.

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 1:00 pm
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Rape is a sexual act but the victim isn't sexualized.  That's very close to the old "You love it, really" trope that should be dead and buried by now.

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 1:08 pm
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Certainly.  But many would argue that rape in not a sexual act at all, that is an act of power and control. And a term often used for behavior following sexual assault, is "sexualize" or "sexualization." A great example of this is how Laura Palmer sexualized the world around her and her relationships with males. This is very common of victims of incest and childhood sexual abuse. If you wanna get real pop culture about it, even Oprah talks about it regarding her own history of sexual abuse.

And if we are referring to it as a sexual act, then that bug/frog crawling in her mouth was not technically rape since what happened there may not have been actually conveyed as a sexual act. I did not see it as sexual at all but as some sort of poisoning or contamination.....a corruption. The scene made me think of the urban legends of bugs crawling into your ear and laying eggs, or under your skin, or into your brain.

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 1:30 pm
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Yup, that works.

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 1:44 pm
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I reject that utterly, and am quite offended by the suggestion I could be so misogynistic in all honesty.  Perhaps I've misphrased previously, but I stand by the concept that the young girl was forever changed by the loss of innocence as soon as the buggy frogmoth crawled into her mouth.

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 1:52 pm
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Good point about the power and control being a fundamental aspect of rape. I'd forgotten that, although we are talking about an extradimensional chimeric vermin mothy bugfrog that crawled into a girls mouth, so its safe to say that we can't be absolutely of what the circumstances, effect and impact were!

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 1:57 pm
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Posted by: jimijokk

I reject that utterly, and am quite offended by the suggestion I could be so misogynistic in all honesty.  Perhaps I've misphrased previously, but I stand by the concept that the young girl was forever changed by the loss of innocence as soon as the buggy frogmoth crawled into her mouth.

I hope that you did not think I was inferring misogyny.  I still love your theory/association.

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 2:05 pm
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But if she was corrupted, how would this manifest in her being, in her mind, body and spirit?

I find I have to agree that using a word like sexuality to describe the changes that would follow that event not only veers away from the truth of the matter, but also helps to distract from the severity of the consequences such a violation would incur.

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 2:08 pm
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Posted by: SamXTherapy

Rape is a sexual act but the victim isn't sexualized.  That's very close to the old "You love it, really" trope that should be dead and buried by now.

No, sorry Brandy, it was in reply to this comment! I never realised replies don't appear automatically underneath the comments they refer to.  All sorts of minor mishaps leading to major misunderstandings  for me online today!

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 2:14 pm
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Posted by: jimijokk

I reject that utterly, and am quite offended by the suggestion I could be so misogynistic in all honesty.  Perhaps I've misphrased previously, but I stand by the concept that the young girl was forever changed by the loss of innocence as soon as the buggy frogmoth crawled into her mouth.

So... you're offended that someone may think you're a misogynist for posting a comment that appears misogynistic?

Alrighty then.

 
Posted : 30/06/2017 4:14 pm
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